Discussion in 'Clickbank' started by m3an93, Apr 20, 2013.
Please OP can you clarify further on why we shouldn't? Why will that be applicable to all product on ClickBank?
Alright, despite that the OP didn't put it very well, here is the essence of the sentiments above:
Don't promote clickbank products that have OPT-IN Forms on their sales page. This is one of the oldest tricks in the book for clickbank vendors. You promote their site using your Hoplink, and then THEY gather a lead on THEIR sales page. By doing this, they essentially cut you out of the equation, and can thereby steal your commissions.
I hope that makes sense, and is what the op was intending to say.
That's an interesting point. I would think that if the sales page is very effective, the affiliate will still be making commissions. However, the vendor is building his list via the signup form, and an affiliate has the option to do that too on his own landing page (prior to pushing affiliate link on the page or in followup emails). Do others avoid promoting CB products where the vendor is capturing emails on the sales page?
OPT-IN forms are not necessarily bad and can actually increase your overal conversions.
Just with ANY product you promote as affiliate, there needs to be a certain trust. Shaving your leads/sales has been done for ages and can also be done without capturing the lead first.
In most cases, building a list is actually perfect for conversions and I recommend all affiliates to do this as well. The vendor captures the potential customer and will be able to convince this person to buy the product for days and even weeks, instead of just letting he/she leave the website.
This could be a great thing for you as affiliate.
And if you want to know if he is playing it dirty you can simply join his list and check for yourself, it's very easy to figure that out.
It won't take a magic pill to find out if your being cheated on, and if that happens just stop promoting that product and move on.
Honestly if your making a few sales per week your doing way to little volume to know if your being ripped off, it's all about the overall numbers. Don't look at marketing as, Hey I made a sale on monday last week so I should make one this week as well.
Anyway, if you don't want to promote products with a OPT-IN form you are missing out on some sick EPCs.
Up to you Brah
Very good advice here!
However, if they later make a sale via an email, how will they know to give the commision to you?
Missed your post, so I'm a replying a bit later.
The emails sent out by the vendor SHOULD NOT overwrite your cookie.
When you sent a customer with your "hop-link" a cookie is placed on his/her computer and according to CB this cookie stays valid for a total of 60 days.
Most legit vendors will use a none overwriting link in their emails, which keeps your cookies in tact. It will pretty much be the same as if the customer would return to the product a few days later and purchase.
When you want to find out if you are being ripped off you can sign-up for the mailing list and find out if your ID is still below the order-page. If a vendor decides to screw you over he will replace the standard non-cookie link that he is suppose to use with his own hoplink, and steal your sale.
Just make sure you always test it out before you start sending traffic but in most cases you will be fine, especially since most CB product rely solely on affiliates for their income.
One more thing you should do not only with CB but any other product you are going to promote. Ask them a question. It is shame to put your time and skill, and money to promote a shit when vendor doesn't bother to answer your (and most probably customers') questions.
The best conversion rate comes from Sale Pages that contain one single button, like "Buy now" or "Download".
The ones with buttons for "Forum", "Affiliates" , "Blog" "Earning Disclaimers" just get the conversion rate lower.
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