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NOTICE: xXKingdom_SEOXx BANNED For 30 DAYS!!!!

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Uptownbulker, Jan 10, 2008.

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  1. Uptownbulker

    Uptownbulker BANNED BANNED

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    Why would ANYONE buy into that kind of bullshit?


    First, Kingdom can be a total asshole to everyone in sight, then offer up some nice stuff to users.

    Then Kingdom is a total asshole for a few days with the switch to "nice guy" expected and it always comes.

    The Kingdom asks to be "banned" and ADMIN buys right into it.

    Can no one see what this is about?

    Kingdom says, "I need to be banned for two weeks!"

    Users then SYMPATHISE with the asshole; which is the point of the whole charade!

    Garner some user sympathy; "Oh, poor Kingdom! He must be SUFFERING some kind of internet induced stress! Poor boy; we'll be nice to him when he returns!"

    Jesus Christ On A Raft!

    As children, were you people dropped on your heads????????????

    You are being set up!

    "Oh, ban me! Ban me! I cannot control myself!

    "Beat me, whip me and call me fuckin' trash!"

    Now I don't know for sure what the game is in this instance but I have seen this internet behaviour before and you ARE being set up for something and that is IS a game and you WILL lose because Kingdom ain't telling you the rules!

    That or Kingdom is just a clueless asshole to begin with and he should be permanently banned or ignored as banning really doesn't work all that well!

    Hezoos Christos!

    This gives me a headache!

    WTF?

    No one around here ever been on the net before?

    No one around here know the FIRST FUCKING THING about internet spoilers, trolls and all-'round JERKS?

    I need a drink.

    Egad!
     
  2. Oakley

    Oakley Regular Member

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    Wow I might of kind of been thinking along the same lines as Uptownbulker maybe not quite as harsh but Kindom is quick to go on the offense whether justified or not.

    The first ban of him I showed my support by asking the powers to be to let him return, but this feels different; hopefully it's not a ploy or trick.

    If it's not on the up and up I'm sure he won't get a third chance.
     
  3. justmeron

    justmeron Power Member

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    Yeah what Uptownbulker says does make sense. I was just kinda waiting till his return and see what happend. Seems like somethings up. I was kinda thinking he was trying to see what we said about him then call us out like what was happening with him and diabolik. I have done some counseling work and just basic selling psych books will tell you if you are going to go for the kill you first build them up then jab. Wont know what happend.
     
  4. pdaguy9

    pdaguy9 BANNED BANNED

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    Guys....

    Why do you even care?
     
  5. Uptownbulker

    Uptownbulker BANNED BANNED

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    Well...............if Kingdom is the kind of asshole that I think that he is, he has been collecting information on users which he will use eventually for his own benefit and to the detriment of those users.

    Kingdom takes by giving and keeps it all.

    His behaviour is that of a Borderline Personality Disordered person; not an ordinary internet user.

    I'd be very, very cautious of any of his downloads or his referenced links.

    The guy is a fucking loon, no matter how you look at it.

    "Ban me!, Ban me!; I cannot control myself!"

    Whatthefuck?

    Get a Goddamn life and do not rely on others to "ban you'!

    The fucking Twelve-Step meeting is not here, it is down the hall over in the next building!

    I do not know what the game is but it ain't good.

    On the other hand, the game be the object.....games are for some people the end all and you must be very, very careful of such people but I am waxing psychological, so I'll quit.
     
  6. justmeron

    justmeron Power Member

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    You are right I think the point uptown is trying to make is just be careful and watch for a wolf in sheeps clothing. Maybe we just tend to get a little paranoid here in the BHW.
     
  7. Essential Clix

    Essential Clix Executive VIP Premium Member

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    I can confirm that Kingdom requested to be banned, he sent me the email requesting it. I suppose I could paste the entire email exchange between us, just for proof to the other members that he DID actually request it, but since I don't have his permission to do that, I won't.

    He says it is to help him "withdraw" from the forum. So either he's really actually addicted to an online website and needs help withdrawing from it, or he's just going through some weird times... I suppose we could call up A&E and get them to do an Intervention on Kingdom...
     
  8. Uptownbulker

    Uptownbulker BANNED BANNED

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    Outside of a very, very few drugs, there is no such thing as "addiction"; the term having been invented essentially to lend credence to the infection of the Twelve-Step-Miracle-Cure programs which have been developed over the years.

    These programs do not exist for the benefit of the members but rather for the benefit of themselves and the funding which they steal from the taxpayers. My comments, which may seem harsh are well-founded in experience on both sides of the "recovery" industry.

    The first thing the "recovery" industry does with an "addict" is to tell the clueless asshole that he or she is "powerless" over his/her "addictive" substance.

    Now there's a fucking winner and the True Way to Salvation!

    "Hey, asshole you have a problem but there is NOTHING that YOU can do about it!"

    There ya go..............set up for failure!

    Then the "recovery" industry tells the poor slob that he/she must "turn over" the problem to an unseen force as SIX of the so-called "Twelve Steps" make DIRECT reference to a "god" or "supreme being" or "God as you know Him"!

    great

    The guy or gal just drank or drugged him/herself into bankruptcy, divorce, loss of parental rights, jail, court-ordered attendance and public shame and all the "Twelve Step" group, be it private or state-funded can do is say, "Turn it over to "God"???????

    No mention of the sugar/alcohol connection, no mention of diet, no mention of behaviour modification; only that the fool must become a part of a system which by its own admission and the best study numbers available has an 87% FAILURE rate!

    Your tax dollars at work.

    As far as behaviour goes, there is really very little "addiction" but one Hell of a lot of BAD BEHAVIOUR!

    And to make matters worse, we call "addiction" a DISEASE!

    Go lookup Stanton Peale's, "The Diseasing of America" and READ IT!

    "Alcoholism", "Drug Addiction", "Porn Addiction" are DISEASES?

    I once heard a guy in a group say that he was "dually diseased"; he had the "diseases" of "alcoholism" and "compulsive gambling".

    I wanted to go across the table and strangle him for lying to himself and lying to people who were really concerned about very real problems that they had!

    Hey, fuckhead, come on down to the children's cancer ward with me and I'll show you a DISEASE!

    The very famous study conducted at the VA hospital in Kansas City, Missouri, showed that of the people who had substance abuse problems, the ones who did the best were the ones who did NOT receive "treatment" but who instead, simply went home ad STOPPED THE BAD BEHAVIOUR!

    In spite of the UNCHALLENGED results of this study, Dr. George Valliant, who conducted the study and who did not get the results that he wanted (Some researcher; denying his own results!) STILL told the public that "Twelve Step" groups were the only way!

    If you are religious, than a 12 step MIGHT, just MIGHT work for you.

    If you are not, you are actually quite likely to be KILLED by the unworkable, faith-based and fundamentally religious policies of the "group".

    I have seen "Twelve Step" groups, both private and publicly funded, KILL people through neglect and rejection.

    I know a guy who spent 22 years trying to drink all the alcohol on the planet simply because it was there, in the guise of "dealing with" certain experiences which transpired in the early 70s while an "employee" of various governmental services. He has never been in the Armed Forces of the USA but did work with them, so I leave the details to your imagination.

    Let's put it this way; he began carrying a sidearm of one kind or the next at the age of 18; a policy to which he adheres to this day; call it paranoia, call it what you like; it makes him feel good and helps him sleep at night even though some 30 years now separate him from the original experience.

    One day, an old buddy said to him about the drinking, "You know, you don't have to do that."; .

    "I don't?", sez The Guy.

    "No, you don't!", sez The Buddy.

    Drama...nothing but drama, because we are indeed and in fact TAUGHT from a very young age to "medicate" our problems with one drug or the next.

    He went home a STOPPED the BAD BEHAVIOUR.

    Now this doesn't mean that he doesn't have a drink or two now and again; he damn sure does and I sometimes drink with him but what it does mean is that if there is a problem, HE FUCKING DEALS WITH IT!

    Anyone who is shown that they DO NOT HAVE TO (DRINK, DRUG, SMOKE, etc; take your pick) can and will do the same thing but you first have to tell them that they CAN, not that they are "POWERLESS" over themselves!

    Think that the "diseased" or "addicted" person doesn't know that they have a problem?

    They fucking well know; each and every one of them but the reality is that they haven't the slightest idea what to do about it and there are few outside of the miserable "12 Step" groups who will tell them what to do and how to do it!

    Banning Kingdom is OK, I suppose but really will not "help" him/her, if indeed he/she needs "help" of any kind.

    I don't think that Kingdom has any kind of "problem"; I think that Kingdom plays games and enjoys sucking everyone around him/her into them.

    Kingdom is into DRAMA!

    Do what you like but be careful.............these people are dangerous, very dangerous.

    Take a look here:

    Rational Recovery:

    http://www.rational.org/

    http://www.unhooked.com/index.htm

    The Best There Is:

    http://www.cfiwest.org/sos/find.htm

    This Is The Guy Bill Wilson Was Trying To Become When AA Nearly Banned Him!:

    http://www.peele.net/

    Oops............I'm writing a book, so I better stop!

    My $.52.
     
  9. easy

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    Why the fuck are we giving this screwball airtime?

    He's an attention seeking missile, starve him of attention and he might do us all a favor and fuck off permanently
     
  10. Uptownbulker

    Uptownbulker BANNED BANNED

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    Yeah, I hear ya and you did the right thing!:)

    You mods do a very good job at a very difficult job and all BHW members owe you thanks!
     
  11. vader

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    what's up with this threads about kingdom
     
  12. Essential Clix

    Essential Clix Executive VIP Premium Member

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    No kidding.

    I'd also just like to add that Kingdom REQUESTED to be banned from the forum (for some strange reason).
     
  13. cybernac

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    Well I should be banned too because my 4 year old says, "Mommy, why do you always go to that place on the computer with the black pages?" HAHAHA

    King...I miss seeing you online! Hope you are having a nice rest away from us (and possibly doing something productive with all of the information you bless upon us noobs!)

    :)sherri
     
  14. sinewave

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    Interesting research, Uptown.

    I don't disagree with your conclusions either, necessarily. I think we can all agree that the individual under discussion is demonstrably unstable.

    I would add here that most of us who have lived any measure of life know what it's like to experience instability in one form or another. Those who are less-experienced or younger will be more inclined to assign the responsibility of their troubles upon others.

    In fact, it's not unusual to see a 5-year-old child continue to misbehave until he/she understands that someone else is in charge. When adults allow children to control the circumstances, children will become so frightened that they will do whatever it takes to have an adult take some charge. A 5-year-old child knows that he/she shouldn't be in charge of any situation and will provoke over and over to get someone more responsible to take over.

    Have you ever heard a parent say to a child "If you do X one more time, I'm going to do Y"? Then when the child does X again, the parent doesn't do Y and the cycle repeats and escalates. In such a case, in my opinion, that child is doing his/her best to get a parent to keep his/her word and to set limits and boundaries to make a child's world managable, imaginable, safe and coherent--and to find a context to win approval. But that's a child's job: to find protection and win approval. That we're wired to demand protection from our caregivers seems a reasonable evolutionary assumption.

    While I assume the individual under discussion is not a 5-year-old child, I think some of the observances above might apply (the pushing to have boundaries set and set a context for approval).

    Just my .02
    Best,
    Sine
     
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