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Notice of Seizure from U.S. Customs what do I do? How serious is this?

Discussion in 'Business & Tax Advice' started by lightmaria, Apr 10, 2013.

  1. lightmaria

    lightmaria Registered Member

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    Okay so, basically I was purchasing knock offs from china; I know it's bad but I did it and I'm never going to do so again.

    So I ordered my package like usual and it went to DHL hub in Cincinnati and there was 7 day clearance delay so I knew something fishy was happening and that they seized my package. On the 8th day I received a letter from the U.S. customs saying that my package was seized because of violating a trademark. Now if I take no action they will just seize the package after 30 days and destroy it. But on the very last page of the letter it says that I could face some sort of civil penalty and they will let me know if I do?

    Is this a serious letter "Notice of Seizure and Information to Claimants"; how concerned should I be and am I going to face any penalties possibly jail time D::: the goods only cost me about 300 dollars.

    Anyways yeah so anyone know anything about this? And to prevent this from happening in the future do you know of ways to avoid this; like like a mail forwarding system/PO box and using a variation of your name? Can this stuff protect you from customs and buying knock offs? Not saying that I will but you never know :D
     
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    Nothing. You lost money, that's it. *cough*imacustomsbrokeriknowwhatimtalkingabout*cough* basically the way it is, if it was just counterfeit product you can appeal it, if you don't you'll never hear from them again and it will sit in a bonded warehouse until they destroy it.
     
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  3. hellnation

    hellnation Regular Member

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    was this your first order? Usually, after 2-3 orders, you need to change the shipping address so they don't pick on the fact that you are receiving big packages often from international source.

    It is possible to get sued but unlikely.

    Sellers in china have a real interest that you get your package, they can usually advise you what to do, they game their system all the time.
     
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    As it mentioned before you have lost some money
    If something was serious you will be for sure, somewhere now where there's no accesses to the internet at all lol
    Anyway Do not worry about it, it is OK.
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  5. lightmaria

    lightmaria Registered Member

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    kk thanks

    @hellnation: you mean first order as in is this the first time it has happended? if so yes.

    So do you think if I keep following these practices nothing will happen? Even if they do get seized again. This isn't like a warning system or something is it?

    Thanks a lot for your replys, this has totally made me breathe a lot easier.
     
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    hellnation Regular Member

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    lightmaria: I meant, how many times your supplier shipped to your address? If they realize you are getting regular packages, you will be investigated. Send it to some friend's address, and switch everytime or each 2-3 orders.

    Unless you'd be caught importing CONTAINERS or fake stuff, I wouldn't worry.

    But as I said, the sellers know when people get caught and can advise tips and tricks.
     
  7. lightmaria

    lightmaria Registered Member

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    Oh he's sent me stuff about 10 times, switching every 2-3 times seems like a lot of work, unless you mean switch back and forth. I can just get a PO box if I need to. Thanks for your insight =)

    And yeah they have been giving me a lot of tips.
     
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    P.O. box isn't going to work. The importer of record on the cf29 has to have a street address.
     
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    Well, if you consistently received internal deliveries then that's probably what got you into trouble.

    Your PO box will be flagged after a few orders, same result.

    maybe after 6 months you can use an old address again.

    a lot of people are doing what you are doing and they are taking measures. it will only get harder.

    I used to sell stuff on ebay from china, I gave up when I saw the poor quality and inconsistencies of the products. and dealing with ebay is just a nightmare.
     
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    Just let your supplier know the package got caught up in customs (it happens from time to time), but he should also send out another free of charge, as it was thru no fault of your own that it got hemmed up.

    I order alot of stuff overseas too, and when my stuff gets caught up, my supplier always re-ships my order no questions asked right back out to me free of charge.
     
  11. lightmaria

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    yes! any good seller would reship the goods to keep their customer.

    if not, beware, switch seller.

     
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    I personally don't think you have anything to worry about, unless they seized 10/20k usd + and have a record of all of the times you did it.. In my opinion if that were the case they would not have sent you a flag. they would just wait for you to come get it and throw the cuffs on then and there.

    Right now i think you just lost your money.

    As if the seller will resend. i HIGHLY doubt it. unless you have a lasting relationship i dnt see him going out of pocket cuz your shipment got popped. UNLESS maybe you can work out a deal, pay the shipping and he send the product or at least he pay the shipping..

    btw if (the seller) he does send u the product because customs got it.. plz refer him to me and anyone else on bwh that might need to do business with someone like that.
     
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  15. lightmaria

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    Oh yeah my seller already told me I'm financially liable if something like this happens.

    I'm not worried about the money I'm worried about them sending this notice to otterbox and I'm then facing a lawsuit or prison time or something. This is the first time they got me on the records and I wasn't ordering much so I doubt it will escalate this quickly. =x
     
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    I would not advise sending packages to friend's addresses.

    1. If customs goes after them, you both will get pinched.

    2. You're putting your friends at risk for no reason.

    3. It's probably not wise to admit on an open forum that you are knowingly breaking US Import laws. Especially, when you admit that this is (a) not the first time you've done it and (b) plan on doing it more.

    4. If you're sending the stuff to all your friends you're basically providing them with a method to triangulate you as the common source.
     
  17. lightmaria

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    Nah, I would never send to a friends house. And I'm not going to continue this practice again just going to try and get past this one scenario.

    Only thing that concerns me is if the customs forwards this information to the otterbox company.
     
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    I'm not 100% sure but i would assume they mostly go after ppl who order enough to resell. Most of the time when one is sued by a large company it usually involves the lost of money they some how calculate you costed them.
     
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    Claim to be a journalist and you are doing research on Chinese goods.
     
  20. yupitsme

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    yeah hence why I'm not buying anymore. If I were you just decline the package and say wrong address and pretty sure DHL will ship it back to where it came from. and then you will get money back i guess i''m not sure. all i know is. stop selling otterboxes online because they will go after you.