Ok, the cat is out of the bag... I'm going to give you my basic blueprint for success. If it is weak in your opinion that is fine but I know this works. First thing to remember is: "Nothing Succeeds Like Success" What does that even mean you ask? It means a lot of things but I'll cover a couple and hopefully some of the smarter folks come in here and share as well. A successful businessman (Imer) brings into his circle successful people so they can all feed off of their ideas, projects an vision. Successful people are not always businessmen/businesswomen that are the "face" of a business. One guy that is part of a project we are sharing said to me "You're successful but I am only a Coder". My response was "You are not just a coder, you are a successful coder that has produced some very good programs and align myself with you is good business as successful people align themselves with other successful people". A writer said "BTB, I am only a writer and not a successful businessman, it makes no sense for you to do a JV with me". Good writers are not a dime a dozen and one that can produce quality unique content is a gem if not a gold mine and I told him so. The deal is very simple... set yourself up with others that are successful and you can all feed off of the positive attributes each offers and make each other successful. I could rattle off the IM businesses that I own and post numbers as to their success but I would rather rattle off the names of the folks that have made me successful due to them being successful people. I know I'll leave out a guy or 2 and for that I apologize but the below and others are successful people and deserve recognition for their skill sets. accelerator_dd babypar (who the heck is that?) Wannabie Tnphoneman Scripteen BK017 phluid loopline andrewg13 Ramsweb I know I left off others but please get the general thought process... surround yourself with successful people, tie into their skill sets, offer something of value to them so they have a reason to reciprocate and you'll end up with a level of success that is above your own skill set. Remember - Nothing Succeeds Like Success.