Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by kumansk, Dec 15, 2010.
That single sentence will save you a lot of friendships trust me. You'll see.
i was going to flame this post initially for being just totally random and weird.
But then i sat back and thought - actually i can relate to this and in fact i am in a position where i am good friends now with an external contractor to a business i run the website for. He has been working with us for a number of years now, but the fact is, i could get the work done faster and cheaper else where. His services are now reduced to £45 per hour - it was £60.
I really like him and trust him alot, i know for instance it might take a bit longer but i know the work will get done by him.
But a few directors are looking at me to replace his services. But due to my history and trust with him, i really dont want to
Never mix friends and business.
the question arises what is more important to you friends or your business?
You know the sentence business is business? That actually means that business over everything else. Even though I consider myself a businessman I can't put that on first place.
Business always leverages personal relationships so I'm not quite sure how this phrase gets you off the hook.
What if you are in the position where you have to terminate your friend due to low performance or KPI that did not achieve?
Sentence to friend:
Dear Friend, nothing personal its just business. We have to terminate you.
Sentence to boss:
Boss, you tell him yourself. I'm resigning!
If you want to live by this you need to make all agreements explicit.
This doesn't mean everything has to be in writing, but things need to be spelled out to avoid misunderstandings and hurt feelings.
Look your friend in the eye and establish expectations and responsibilities with direct conversation. This is harder to do the closer you are to the other person, but do it you must.
If the other guy gets his feelings hurt and you've done everything properly it is his fault, not yours, and you should probably dump him as a friend posthaste.
I agree with this much more than the original post. Anything involving money is always personal, so it is best to just avoid the matter as much as possible. I would rather give services to a friend for free, just to avoid any possible problems involving money.
Choose your friends.
If the phrase is followed by something that will affect your friends financial security then...
more often than saving a friendship, it's going to elicit the response,
"It may be business to you, but it sure feels personal to me."
Sometimes it can be worthwhile to have business ventures with friends, but in choosing between this philosophy and the one above, Jokerz plan is more likely to keep your friends.
Some people might be rational enough for the OP's idea to help, but most people are too emotional for it to work.
Having said that, if your in a situation where it applies then "nothing personal" is often the only thing you really can say.
i hv had bad experience mixing business in frndship.........beware,keep business and frndshp at their own places. u try to mix them,u r at a loss
I mixed friendship with business once. Won't make that mistake again.
I've made some very good friends though business.
exactly.....bt dnt do the opposite...indulge in business with frnds
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