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Not Making Money Online but Have Time and Money to Invest?

Discussion in 'Joint Ventures' started by shane489, Mar 25, 2010.

  1. shane489

    shane489 Junior Member

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    I'm looking for one person to help me develop some online money making methods which will involve CL. I'm expecting that you have at least $400 to invest into this and some time and motivation to work and learn what I teach. You should also know something about Internet Marketing, etc. FYI I've been dealing with IM for three years and made big money on CL before so I have enough experiences and knowledge to do it again.

    The goal would be to develop methods that can generate $100+/day almost on autopilot. PM me if you can fulfill the requirements and are serious about this JV and please give some intro about yourself!
     
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    shane489 Junior Member

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    Setup and testing costs.
     
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    shane489 Junior Member

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    Well the testing phase is the main thing I could need some help with (and I have many different ideas to test because there is money to be made on CL ;)), otherwise I wouldn't be offering this JV. When looking from a newbies point of view they have the option to try test/develop methods by themselves (and prolly fail or lose tons of money because of the lack of exp and skills) OR they have the opportunity to have someone experienced and skilled to do all the testing and developing - all they have to do is follow specific instructions and they'll prolly get a good money making method into their hands.

    Of course with all IM method developments there are risks of failing but when you compare the two previously mentioned options which would be more likely to become a success for a newbie?
     
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    So you are going to use my $400 while you learn a method on CL that you will eventually share with me? That doesn't sound like a great deal. The thing with CL isn't finding things that work, its getting around their technical barriers that is the problem.

    I can hire a poster that will already have his PVA and proxies setup for a fraction of that price.
     
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    shane489 Junior Member

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    Guys don't take this $400 so seriously, it's just a rough budget. Maybe it takes only $50 for testing and setup but then you can use $350 for scaling up fast.

    Hmm so Tygrus for me it seems that you're saying that all you need for making money on CL is the abillity to get ads live? Well I'd say it isn't quite that easy :).

    How about first finding offers that can be used with such traffic without getting banned from the networks. Then the posting solutions. Then getting the leads to convert with a good ROI. Then getting a good autoresponding system that won't send your responses to the spambox. Then hiring/managing outsourcers to keep this system well going almost automated. And doing every step here with a success.

    Btw the goal is to develop methods that make a win-win-win situation (not the usual "verify this" stuff).
     
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    First he said this:

    Then he said this:

    So why in the HELL do you need someones elses money to do it again if your already an "expert" at it?

    Homie, I don't know who you are trying to fool, but it sounds to me like you've just been doing a whole lot of reading, and are just reciting things that you read on this forum. Even noobs know that dude, you are NOT showing what you know here, only what has already been said one milllion times on this forum.

    Again, if your already an expert, you wouldn't need someone elses cash!

    I SMELL A SET-UP!!!
     
  7. emthree

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    Doesn't sound like you have a solid plan. Throwing shit at the wall and waiting for something to stick while using someone elses money is not exactly a great idea. Why don't you test on a smaller scale first and once you have an idea that worked you can JV in order to Scale up?
     
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    emthree Junior Member

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    Said best by his signature:
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    Fools and fanatics are always certain of themselves, but wiser people are full of doubts.
     
  9. jay2success

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    Well i don't know but your JV is not good.
    You said you already making money on IM but you need 400$ for testing and it's using newbie money also. Doesn't sound like fair deal to me.

    I will explain why:
    - Finding offers from network is free, no need for investment
    - Getting the leads to convert with a good ROI has nothing to do with investment also
    - There are many good autoresponder shared free here on BHW so why i would spend 400$ to start?
    - Posting solution, just hire poster for 50$

    Sounds to me that you want to develop method but you don't have money and want to take advantage of newbie's money. If you already making money from IM then 400$ is not big investment for start so why do you need JV? To me, it looks like you don't have money and want to take advantage of newbie, this is not good.

    This is just my opinion so no heart feeling.

     
  10. shane489

    shane489 Junior Member

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    Eeasy there gb5000, did I say anywhere I was an expert? I know guys being in IM for 6 years and still not making money so me doing it three years doesn't make me an expert. I've just had good success with CL CPA before, especially at the good ewhoring days last year.

    Indeed my post count only shows 23 but as you can see I've been on the board for 1.5 years and all my other posts were deleted with the removal of the removed sections...

    Unfortunately the good days of ewhoring ended and my next experimental projects failed so there (along with other things) went the money. Now I'm just getting back to what I'm good at. I don't need anyone to make this work eventually but it would be faster and easier if I were to do this project with a small helper ;)

    blaaah
     
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    shane489 Junior Member

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    Dudes seriously where do you read all those false facts that you keep throwing at me? C'mon
     
  12. gb5000

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    Ummm......

    That sounds like the words of a self proclaimed expert to me! Maybe I'm missing something here?

    Dude, your offer sounds fishy bro, maybe work on your pitch alittle more, you've shot yourself in the foot a couple of times there!
     
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    shane489 Junior Member

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    Sorry but seems to me you have to work more on your reading/interpretation skills. I can promise I've been nothing but sincere here but I know all the scammers shit have made people cautious amongst other things.

    Anyways I know I would've been glad at my newbie days to have such an opportunity so if you're not interested please don't come flaming OR discuss things with me in private. Of course I'm not gonna share all my secrets and methods here open wide just to prove my point.
     
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    If you think, based on what you wrote and HOW you wrote it, that my (and others) reading/interpretation skills are the problem here, then I find it VERY hard to believe that you've been in "IM" for 3 years making a BLATANTLY obvious stretch of the truth
    that is written in you FIRST post.

    Your selling yourself, good luck!

    More selling/Forum Noob Lead generation- Out of the judgmental eyes of the public.

    This is the SMARTEST thing I've seen you write so far. I agree.

    BTW, EW, contridary to your belief, is most certainly NOT dead. Again, if you are really an expert like you say you are, you would know this.

    Sorry bro, but you have ALOT of inconsistency in your post. Good luck with your recruitment efforts!
     
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    Even if he was an expert a few years ago CL changed so much that who knows how much he knows now. Although using someone elses money to relearn it isn't a good idea. If his first post is begging for money, that's a bad bad sign.
     
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    Not again gb5000 :D, I wrote "Unfortunately the good days of ewhoring ended" not "EW is dead". I know it's far from being dead :).

    I'd say you see black, I see white and the truth (as always) lies somewhere in the gray area, which I hope other members can understand. Heh you are one skeptical person and my sincerity is just powerless against it :)

    Peace!

    (Fyi English is not my native language)
     
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    If its such a great idea and you've said you made shedloads of money, then why not just do it yourself? You can afford it.....
     
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    shane489 Junior Member

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    Feel free to read my posts again, you'll get your facts straight there :)
     
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    @OP:

    Fact is you want to take advantage of others by asking them for money, so that you can test some of your ideas. This is definitely NOT a JV. It would be different if you would have tested your ideas already and you can prove they work. Then you can ask for investors to scale up your proven methods.
     
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    shane489 Junior Member

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    Peter the way I see it (and make it) is that the one helping me out is gaining a lot of very valuable experiences which I can teach him/her, it's like having a personal mentor and every investment he makes will be made with the goal of his own success. In this way why couldn't you name it 50% JV/(investing?) and 50% mentoring?

    Also when you take a look at the offline business world you should see many examples where investors come in at the stage of making plans, where it's far from being sure that the project will be of any success?