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[Not IM question] Anyone heard of speed reading?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by iamthefox, Sep 20, 2015.

  1. iamthefox

    iamthefox Regular Member

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    Hi guys,

    I just encounter with some concept of speed reading and accelerated learning or even some system that claim people can read at 25,000 wpm...
    so my question is have anyone experienced with all of this thing? Is it legit or practical?

    I think if we are able to read at the faster speed this skill can accelerated us to success faster! Readers is leaders and leaders is readers.

    PS. I don't know if this was right section to post this kind of question or not.

    Thanks you :D
     
  2. Aces SEO

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    this is a interesting concept, I think personality type is HUGE in the way of how you work and work ethic. its really impossible to say because everyone is so different.
     
  3. Panther28

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    i want to read about speed "doing" lol
     
  4. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    You are confusing the external things with the substance. You don't get better in the success game by passing over collections of black dots over a white background.

    For reading to be of any value, it needs to equal deep understanding. You don't get understanding by speed. You get it by taking notes, repetition and of course, taking action, calibrating, re-reading etc etc.

    Now here's a challenge for you. Pick a book, take notes while you read, scan them and post them here.
     
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  5. iamthefox

    iamthefox Regular Member

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    I respect your suggestion sir,
    I used to read books, taking note and re-read them twice but that takes me for 1 months per book(500~600 pages). The speed reading concept just claim that you have better understand at the better understanding of it so I don't see why this wouldn't let let us to be success faster.

    I think reading and understanding the information is very crucial skill even though to success is to have consistent of positive habit and discipline but you just need it to consume more knowledge which will lead to our specific target faster.

    And I don't know we have section for reviewing books, if it have that would be very nice contribution!

    Anyone with opinions or experience with it can share it here :rolleyes:
     
  6. shortgigs

    shortgigs Regular Member

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    Install http://www.spritzlet.com and find out, but not sure if you'll get up to 25k wpm - think maybe less than 1k for sure, I'm around 600-750 wpm with retention then it gets fuzzy. Literally.

    Cheers
     
  7. Zwielicht

    Zwielicht Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Yes, I read about speed reading several years ago, but I never got around to practising it. There was one method of speed reading that consisted of trying to assimilate the pages as "images" rather than as individual words so that you can "capture" each page as an image in your mind.

    Since I never got around to testing this, nor have I done much research on it, I cannot confirm the veracity of these methods.

    Edit: Is it just me, or does something about the first couple of sentences seem a bit Pewep-ish? :D
     
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  8. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    That's great. Now all you have to do is pick a book with great information in it, absorb it and apply. You get no brownie points about the quantity of books. Brownie points are given on what you do with the information you get.

    Use logic for a moment. On the one hand you read a book slowly with notes twice. On the other hand, you speed through a book. You're not happy with the first approach but the second one will miraculously give you a better understanding of the information. Do you know why the "eat as much, whatever you like, except roasted pineapples" diet books are so popular? :)

    YES!

    NO! The marginal utility of information decreases with quantity. In other words, when you're thirsty, the first 2 glasses of water are so useful. The 24th glass of water is not. You stop and 3 glasses, go do something else and come back for more when it's actually necessary.

    Nice idea, you can post it in the forum suggestions section.
     
  9. Reaver

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    I read really fast but I don't see the point in speed reading. And I have to say that sometimes I have to go over things two or three times because I may have missed something the first time.

    I remember my friends talking about this in the 90s. One chick swore she could speed read and entire book in like an hour. So I challenged her. I gave her a book to read that I knew very well, but she had never read. I told her to read it, and then when she came back I had a question for her that could only be answered after reading the book.

    She came back in an hour, chest all puffed out. She was proud. Then I said "What was the main character wearing when her suitor visited her the week before they got married?"

    She had no freaking idea what I was talking about.

    I think she thought I was going to ask her what it was about. That detail may seem irrelevant but it was important to the plot bc the main character was a slave and her fiance was trying to teach her how to carry herself without giving away her background. In order to do that she had to change her attitude and her clothes. You skip over something like that, or just speed past it, then you miss the reasons why she starts acting differently later on in the book, or why it ends the way it does.

    tl;dr: Reading fast doesn't mean better comprehension or the ability to retain more information/knowledge.
     
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  10. iamthefox

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    Well, I don't know how to multiquote for replying.

    @shortgigs
    Thanks for the tool, just check it out and it seem that we can use it on web based too, may be use this to go through that tons of information in IM journey section lol.

    @zwielicht
    Wow, is that system called photoreading or something around this, that sound amazing for capturing the image instead of reading. And yes, I just reread my first sentence and it sounds pewep-ish :p , but don't compare me to the legend please hahahahah.

    @jazzc
    That's clarify things up sir, it's sound legits now, maybe I have some quickfix attitude left
    and that marginal utility is very clear for analogy of this thing so I will take normal reading but make understanding and applying it to be first priority!

    Thanks everyone for the suggestion
     
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  11. Zwielicht

    Zwielicht Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Yeah, I think it's called photoreading, although I'll have to look into it more later.

    By the way, I was talking about my first couple of sentences sounding Pewep-ish in my first post; "Practising... assimilating pages... in the mind".
     
  12. iamthefox

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    Totally agree with this, thanks for another confirm that normal reading is the best.
     
  13. iamthefox

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    I just read his thread about 2 days ago and that's is amazing and hilarious in the same time.
     
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    Yeh I practiced this when reading 4 Hour Work Week. Which is probably the reason I had to reread the book 2 more times.

    For me, the value in speed reading isn't really "reading". It's the evaluation and association of value. Where we quickly employ schemas to decode information and assign value before doing anything else. Kinda like smelling food before you eat it. It's a type of biological taxonomy. Where I gain an image of the writer in my mind, classify them as some ambiguous object (ie. lemon or peach ) then decide whether to reject or digest.

    Same goes with links on this forum. If I see anyone posting links from Mirror, Empire News, The Daily Current, etc... I know to leave that thread immediately. If I see a link from Forbes, HuffPo, Wire, etc, I'll probably slow down and take more time.

    If you can do this effectively on a large scale, it doesn't matter how fast you read. And I'd say this same effect applies to writing, working and producing. It's not about how fast you can do it. It's about the value and relevance to your target audience.
     
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    I took a speed reading course and not to brag, my speed shot up to 43 pages a minute.

    But my comprehension plummeted.
     
  16. Aatrox

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    Yeah, I was reading fast before, but sometimes needs to read it a few times to understand it.

    I took a few udemy classes for that and it helped. I'm pretty satisfied with the speed of my reading now. :)