Not a success story.

Instead this is a story of huge fail.

Ok, so i started about a year ago or so. Everything seemed good at the beginning. Somehow i actually got a web2.0 site that earned me a couple of hundred dollars every month on autopilot. The niche was still not popular back then and i managed to get it ranked even though i didn't know how to build proper backlinks. As for a third world country student this was great income, then it got even better, I got a bh JV which let me earn a 1k$ or so a month.

I actually earned some few thousands through all of this so it all seemed good, but then came the downfall.

I realized that the jv i have can actually get me in lots of trouble so stopped it immediately. Besides that my web2.0 site got also banned for some shit i did a long time ago.

I was left basically without income a few months ago and am still without any + my savings are running out.

Besides that i'm a student and need to pay for studies (I dropped out of budget because of IM lifestyle). None of my parents work, because it's impossible to get a job now where i live (70 people on one job vacancy). Not only that but if you actually get a job, it will probably pay around 600$ a month or less (teachers with highest education get 280$, for example). And my family needs 1000$ together to pay for bills and food.

Any money I had is running out now and i'm currently really stressed because might get kicked out or just starve.

I've tried bh techniques, but never got to earn more than a few bucks. Everyone knows that all the threads that share bh methods are just hype and nobody ever shares a real working method. Believe me I tried CL posting, tried CPA (have tons of cpa accounts), I made several sites, web2.0 sites, got them backlinked with various tools, but none of them are ranking.

My best success with automated income is 1$ per adsense autoblog. inb4 "replicate on 100 blogs herp derp!" That shit works only in theory and I actually had to put quite some effort to get even some visitors to the autoblog. I've tried other autoblogs and they have earned nothing.

I know lots of stuff. I can write articles, pretty good ones actually, but nobody wants to pay you more than indian anyway, and that's not enough to survive even if i work all the part time i can. I can build backlinks and build forum profiles, but i guess nobody gives a shit because you will just launch your xrumer or senuke and get the job done with that.

Basically i'm not sure what to do now, i can't get a job or any income at home country so i might as well try turning to again internet. I feel ashamed to be posting this but i am in the state that i dont care anymore about my dignity. I can work part time but i'm willing to do pretty much everything just to secure me and my family. I don't have any morals so at least that's not a problem.

I have a few sites, maybe i can sell those if someone needs them. If someone is interested in ANY service at all or can help somehow, feel free to pm me or post here. BTW, i know about most of the stuff that goes down in the kitchen so at least try not to scam me or something. If you have nothing to offer, just ignore.

End of pity post.

Everyone knows that all the threads that share bh methods are just hype and nobody ever shares a real working method. Believe me I tried CL posting, tried CPA (have tons of cpa accounts), I made several sites, web2.0 sites, got them backlinked with various tools, but none of them are ranking.

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If you want to think like that then shall it be!
There are few quite a good methods but you just can't copy them all word by word and hope for success..

toxtom said:

If you want to think like that then shall it be!
There are few quite a good methods but you just can't copy them all word by word and hope for success..

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Yeah i know that! But i'm not a genius, if I would be then I wouldn't be in this situation. It's easy to say "think out of the box" but not all people are capable of this. I'm capable of executing a well written plan, but when it fails, I just don't see any hope anymore.

I understand your concern, small_town_boy. I'm not sure exactly what to say to you, other than, thanks for being truthful and not spewing stats and pictures like other members' threads I've seen on here. I can respect that, and I'd rep you if I could. Maybe in a few weeks when I get that power I will come back and do that.

It may help us a little bit if you tell us exactly where you are located, or at least a general area. $600 a month can't possibly be the United States or the United Kingdom.

Hang in there. I'll do some research over the next few days and see if there is anything I can possibly do for you. Maybe you can resort to putting a PayPal donate button on your blogs and in your signature here and at any other forums you may happen to be a part of.

RoadToMillions said:

I understand your concern, small_town_boy. I'm not sure exactly what to say to you, other than, thanks for being truthful and not spewing stats and pictures like other members' threads I've seen on here. I can respect that, and I'd rep you if I could. Maybe in a few weeks when I get that power I will come back and do that.

It may help us a little bit if you tell us exactly where you are located, or at least a general area. $600 a month can't possibly be the United States or the United Kingdom.

Hang in there. I'll do some research over the next few days and see if there is anything I can possibly do for you. Maybe you can resort to putting a PayPal donate button on your blogs and in your signature here and at any other forums you may happen to be a part of.

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I'm in Latvia. But no, I'm not putting donate button and asking for money. I better die but I won't step this low ever. I would emigrate if I didn't have to study for 2 more years. I might quit but then i will fail at life completely since I already paid for studies.

small_town_boy said:

Yeah i know that! But i'm not a genius, if I would be then I wouldn't be in this situation. It's easy to say "think out of the box" but not all people are capable of this. I'm capable of executing a well written plan, but when it fails, I just don't see any hope anymore.

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Are u a retarded Monkey who can just follow orders?
Man up and don't be such an whinging pussy NO ONE WILL SPOON-FEED YOU!

You don't need to be Genius with IQ of 150 to make money online!
What hope? - Fcking start working, if one thing Fails then just get back up and try to improve it untill it will work If you really see that it wont work then take next thing!

-For your own good...
I wasn't born in rich family either...

Are u kidding me? I'm in Latvia as well! Yeah it's shitty times right now but don't be one of them.. YOU DON'T NEED TO BE!


I hope you know that Studying NOW is worst thing you can do if you dont have money specially in our Country, Even with your Grade you wont get a frickin job!

toxtom said:

Are u a retarded Monkey who can just follow orders?
Man up and don't be such an whinging pussy NO ONE WILL SPOON-FEED YOU!

You don't need to be Genius with IQ of 150 to make money online!
What hope? - Fcking start working, if one thing Fails then just get back up and try to improve it untill it will work If you really see that it wont work then take next thing!

-For your own good...
I wasn't born in rich family either...

Are u kidding me? I'm in Latvia as well! Yeah it's shitty times right now but don't be one of them.. YOU DON'T NEED TO BE!

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Do you really think I haven't done all of that what you said? Seriously, i put in lots of work to write all of those articles and do all of those web2.0 sites, linkwheels and what not. I did everything by the book. Backlinks and all that stuff. It's been ages and google still doesn't love my sites. And the most retarded thing is that the actual visitors that I do get give me maybe a few bucks per adsense a best (at month) but no actual sales on CB or on CPA.

It's easy to say "WORK HARD, THINK OUT OF BOX!!!" but it just doesn't always work even if you do. There is no guarantee that you will be successful. You might as well burn out and lose everything. There never is a guarantee.

Im not asking for spoon feeding, thought maybe someone needs some services here that i could offer.

I hope you know that Studying NOW is worst thing you can do if you dont have money specially in our Country, Even with your Grade you wont get a frickin job!

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Too late, i'm already in and I can't quit now. Everything was good when i started and nobody would ever think of crisis.

small_town_boy said:

Do you really think I haven't done all of that what you said? Seriously, i put in lots of work to write all of those articles and do all of those web2.0 sites, linkwheels and what not. I did everything by the book. Backlinks and all that stuff. It's been ages and google still doesn't love my sites. And the most retarded thing is that the actual visitors that I do get give me maybe a few bucks per adsense a best (at month) but no actual sales on CB or on CPA.

It's easy to say "WORK HARD, THINK OUT OF BOX!!!" but it just doesn't always work even if you do. There is no guarantee that you will be successful. You might as well burn out and lose everything. There never is a guarantee.

Im not asking for spoon feeding, thought maybe someone needs some services here that i could offer.

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Oh my Gosh for Fck sake STOP BE WHINING PUSSY!
You have tried only one thing- SEO .. - By one thing you Judge everything? huh?
In my opinion It's latest shit.. Have never made a dime out of it and you always have to worry that one day you might just get banned by google...

Of course how can there be any guarantee in business we do? Don't even except that- never ever!

toxtom said:

Oh my Gosh for Fck sake STOP BE WHINING PUSSY!
You have tried only one thing- SEO .. - By one thing you Judge everything? huh?
In my opinion It's latest shit.. Have never made a dime out of it and you always have to worry that one day you might just get banned by google...

Of course how can there be any guarantee in business we do? Don't even except that- never ever!

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No, I tried:
a) ewhoring
b) cl posting
c) seo
d) youtube
e) backlinkspam
f) WSO's
None of that crap worked for me. And yes I tried it quite a lot. The most money i ever got was through white hat and clickbank but even that doesn't work anymore + all the jobless people increasing IM competition.

a) ewhoring
b) cl posting
D) youtube

-These 3will work at any given time.. Care to tell how much time you actually placed in each of them or just like tried for 1-2hours each and quit as soon as you didn't saw instant success ?

I just know one thing, if you keep on doing it (working hard in IM) you will get you 'ahha' moment.

You state that you are a pretty good writer, why don't you offer your services to the noobs at DP?

You can also write for associated content and get paid there. I started in article writing and sold to AC for a while until I got my websites up and making money and now I just write 15 - 20 articles daily and submit them to ezine for traffic to my sites.

toxtom said:

a) ewhoring
b) cl posting
D) youtube

-These 3will work at any given time.. Care to tell how much time you actually placed in each of them or just like tried for 1-2hours each and quit as soon as you didn't saw instant success ?

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LoL! Yeah right! Everybody on CL can tell a scam for a mile away. I actually had to pay for PVA's and Proxy's to earn maybe a couple of bucks. I was placing ads for like 2 weeks straight.

Ewhoring - don't have spam tools but tried some porn sites and messaging other members, got banned after a while, nobody signed up.

Youtube - have tons of videos in youtube (a few hundred at least). The recent ones i add just don't get any views and it's even harder to get ranked in youtube that was a year before when i got the first vids uploaded. I even tried uploading related videos to CB products with watermarks and everything. Eventually after a few months i maybe got like 1 sale.

You state that you are a pretty good writer, why don't you offer your services to the noobs at DP?

You can also write for associated content and get paid there. I started in article writing and sold to AC for a while until I got my websites up and making money and now I just write 15 - 20 articles daily and submit them to ezine for traffic to my sites.

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How much Ac pays for an article approximately? What % of articles get accepted? What if I am not from US?

I just know one thing, if you keep on doing it (working hard in IM) you will get you 'ahha' moment.

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OR you will run out of money and time and starve.

You state that you are a pretty good writer, why don't you offer your services to the noobs at DP?

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Are they willing to pay 8$+ per one 500 word article? I heard they only use cheap indian labour.

small_town_boy said:

No, I tried:
a) ewhoring
b) cl posting
c) seo
d) youtube
e) backlinkspam
f) WSO's
None of that crap worked for me. And yes I tried it quite a lot. The most money i ever got was through white hat and clickbank but even that doesn't work anymore + all the jobless people increasing IM competition.

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You tried it a lot? Does that mean you just kept trying the same thing over and over again? Or did you try ewhoring and then when you didn't get any sales the first day you switched up your replies. And when you switched up your replies, talked to more people and tested some landing pages out you STILL didn't make any money.

What I think you need to do is pick one of those things that you want to do and keep trying until you succeed. People make a TON of money with every single one of those things you just listed. Pick your favorite and start trying! Ewhoring just takes practice. Learning what to say in certain circumstances will only come with trial and error. Someone is closing the deal either way. They are convincing you they don't need to sign up or you convince them that they should. Either way a sale is made. If you want to make money, YOU need to be the one closing the deal YOUR way.

So don't give up!!

Right now I am on track to make $xxxx this month for the first time ever! How an I doing that? Well yes I have read every thread on this forum almost (at least it seems like it. haha). But what I did was think what do people need or want. And how can I convince them they need or want it so I make money. My method is painstakingly simple and takes me about 30 minutes a day. But that is only because I did the work earlier of researching and testing

small_town_boy said:

LoL! Yeah right! Everybody on CL can tell a scam for a mile away. I actually had to pay for PVA's and Proxy's to earn maybe a couple of bucks. I was placing ads for like 2 weeks straight.

Ewhoring - don't have spam tools but tried some porn sites and messaging other members, got banned after a while, nobody signed up.

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Then don't scam them. Provide them with something they really want or need. They are happy and you make money.

If you have PVA's and proxies then post a couple ads and then talk to the guys manually. Don't give up just because that one site didn't work. Try a new site. Try a whole new method! Chat rooms, plenty of fish, CL, gumtree, Backpage etc etc etc

Man, I'm sorry to hear that.
If you're good with articles maybe you should try associated content?

It looks like you tried a lot of things, maybe you tried too much things. None of the methods here are straightforward, you need to put some thought into it. Sometimes very small things can make a huge difference.

what country you from if you dont mind me asking?

small_town_boy said:

LoL! Yeah right! Everybody on CL can tell a scam for a mile away. I actually had to pay for PVA's and Proxy's to earn maybe a couple of bucks. I was placing ads for like 2 weeks straight.

Ewhoring - don't have spam tools but tried some porn sites and messaging other members, got banned after a while, nobody signed up.

Youtube - have tons of videos in youtube (a few hundred at least). The recent ones i add just don't get any views and it's even harder to get ranked in youtube that was a year before when i got the first vids uploaded. I even tried uploading related videos to CB products with watermarks and everything. Eventually after a few months i maybe got like 1 sale.


How much Ac pays for an article approximately? What % of articles get accepted? What if I am not from US?


OR you will run out of money and time and starve.


Are they willing to pay 8$+ per one 500 word article? I heard they only use cheap indian labour.

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I won't believe untill you will go up to mirror and say to yourself all this that you did everything you could but nothing succeeded for you and see how you feel when telling bullshit to yourself!

teenmoney said:

You tried it a lot? Does that mean you just kept trying the same thing over and over again? Or did you try ewhoring and then when you didn't get any sales the first day you switched up your replies. And when you switched up your replies, talked to more people and tested some landing pages out you STILL didn't make any money.

What I think you need to do is pick one of those things that you want to do and keep trying until you succeed. People make a TON of money with every single one of those things you just listed. Pick your favorite and start trying! Ewhoring just takes practice. Learning what to say in certain circumstances will only come with trial and error. Someone is closing the deal either way. They are convincing you they don't need to sign up or you convince them that they should. Either way a sale is made. If you want to make money, YOU need to be the one closing the deal YOUR way.

So don't give up!!

Right now I am on track to make $xxxx this month for the first time ever! How an I doing that? Well yes I have read every thread on this forum almost (at least it seems like it. haha). But what I did was think what do people need or want. And how can I convince them they need or want it so I make money. My method is painstakingly simple and takes me about 30 minutes a day. But that is only because I did the work earlier of researching and testing

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Yes, i tried switching replies and landing pages and everything, i even copied how other blackhat marketers did it, but it didn't work anyway! I could keep trying experimenting up to a certain limit, and that limit is now. I have to stop experimenting and start earning. My family is also expecting that and I can't deliver. Damn, feels suicidal!

Congradulations on you earning money! You are probably more smarter than me! There is an IQ capacity to each individual.

If you're good with articles maybe you should try associated content?

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How much do they pay per article???

Then don't scam them. Provide them with something they really want or need. They are happy and you make money.

If you have PVA's and proxies then post a couple ads and then talk to the guys manually. Don't give up just because that one site didn't work. Try a new site. Try a whole new method! Chat rooms, plenty of fish, CL, gumtree, Backpage etc etc etc

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Yeah, I tried that believe me! I tried taking related CPa offers and offering to people who need them, but it just didn't work! I had problems with CL, getting PVA's, collecting emails. I even paid for private proxy (can not afford now) and got successful at posting a few ads a day that stick but i didn't get much replies. And those that i got didn't convert. I tried other CL type pages as well. I tried new sites a lot of times. I invested time and energy into building each of these sites from ground up but they have earned me all together maybe a hundred bucks (for months). I mean, sure I can say i earn money online, I have earned money online and I know how to earn money online. I just don't know how to earn enough money to make it a difference. 50$ income a month barely pays for internet lol

You can make money with any method as long as you put the effort in. I know somebody who spent half a day, every day for months personally approaching people one by one and asking them to join his photography community. Years later he is pretty loaded.

a) ewhoring - Works! People make thousands every day from it.
b) cl posting - Same as ewhoring. People buy houses with money they earned from CL.
c) seo - SEO what? Its not a method. It is search engine optimization. Millions of companies do it as well as individuals like me and you. Its a multi billion industry. Everyone makes money from it but you.
d) youtube - I personally made a killing from it promoting camgirls.
e) backlinkspam - Isn't that SEO?
f) WSO's - What ones?

Nobody said this was easy. How many 8 hour days did you put into each of the methods?

mightybh said:

You can make money with any method as long as you put the effort in. I know somebody who spent half a day, every day for months personally approaching people one by one and asking them to join his photography community. Years later he is pretty loaded.

a) ewhoring - Works! People make thousands every day from it.
b) cl posting - Same as ewhoring. People buy houses with money they earned from CL.
c) seo - SEO what? Its not a method. It is search engine optimization. Millions of companies do it as well as individuals like me and you. Its a multi billion industry. Everyone makes money from it but you.
d) youtube - I personally made a killing from it promoting camgirls.
e) backlinkspam - Isn't that SEO?
f) WSO's - What ones?

Nobody said this was easy. How many 8 hour days did you put into each of the methods?

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See my registration date? A year i've been doing this. No doubt there are many successful people in this, but just not me. As I said I don't really have any time to experiment now, i can just offer my services, i thought maybe someone would need something, but i guess not.

PS: Forgot to mention, also tried cookie stuffing quite a lot.