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Noobs: The basics of finding decent PBN hosts

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by macdonjo3, Dec 3, 2015.

  1. macdonjo3

    macdonjo3 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Finding a cheap hosts that are reliable is a tedious task but I've never ran into problems by doing these 2-3 dummy-proof checks on hosts.

    I see a lot of people looking at recommendations on forums. Some of them are good, but many I wouldn't use. Sometimes you're just better off at Googling: 1 dollar host or cheap web hosting, and then filtering them yourself.

    First, check the reviews on WebHostTalk.com.

    Go to Google, type in:

    site: webhostingtalk.com.com "your host name"

    If there are a lot of reviews, simply click "Search tools" and select within the past year.

    Read some of the reviews, they won't be biased for the most part on that forum.

    If there are no reviews, I wouldn't risk trying them and being the first.

    Second, you should use their live support or email support.

    Simply start a live chat, and see how long it takes. Ask a question. See if the live chat even works.

    If they don't have a live chat, I don't use them. However, sometimes I'll email them and see if they respond to a simple sales question in 10 minutes.

    Sometimes I'll email "How quick does support usually respond?"

    Lastly, I also check over things like how long the host has been around. I don't want a host that's new in the past couple years. I also have Moz's toolbar installed so just by looking at the DA, you can tell if they're established at all.

    I do this for every host, and I've been more than happy with the ones I've chose.
     
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  2. aparungao

    aparungao Junior Member

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    I have seen webhosttalk around here before, when someone is asking if a particular web host is reliable. Then I tried using it before I picked my current web host. So far, never got disappointed.
     
  3. DJPaulyD

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    Great post here. Always do your research before dealing with any company these days.

    It doesn't take a lot of time to come up with good decisions.
     
  4. asap1

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    Ill save you the trouble.

    Most are $1 a month.

    Code:
    [URL]https://www.hostbig.com/[/URL]
    [URL]http://www.zettahost.com/2-dollar-web-hosting[/URL]
    [URL]https://hostripples.com/best-USA-linux-cpanel-shared-web-hosting.php[/URL]
    [URL]https://www.hobohost.com/[/URL]
    [URL]http://www.1dollar-webhosting.com/[/URL]
    [URL]http://www.linkalone.com/index.html[/URL]
    [URL]http://prewebhost.com/linux-cpanel-hosting.html[/URL]
    [URL]https://t1hosting.com/[/URL] Coupon - WHTB15
    [URL]http://www.idc.net/web-hosting.php[/URL]
    [URL]https://www.meanservers.com/billing/cart.php?gid=12[/URL]
    [URL]http://webup247.biz/sharedhosting.php[/URL]
    [URL]https://mybargainhost.com/promo.php?code=cuTr2phaqey[/URL]
    [URL]https://www.regolithmedia.com/client/cart.php?gid=22&currency=1[/URL]
    [URL]http://02hosting.com/web-hosting.php[/URL] Coupon - 50offweek
    [URL]http://www.easiestwebhosting.com/blogstarter.html[/URL]
     
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  5. nexusseo

    nexusseo Newbie

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    You can just go to hosting section in this forum: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/f196-hosting.

    Reviews in webhostingtalk is great but personally, i would contact them and see how fast their response time via ticket/livechat. Honestly i dont see any good reviews anywhere anymore, since reviews can be fake even in the most trusted forum like webhostingtalk. Those good reviews will be always be good either people just want to jump into the conversation by getting more post for them self or they dont not want to against the crowd by standing up and saying "this host is bad!

    Most hosting companies have money back and you can always test by signing up and if turns out to be bad you can always ask for refund or chargeback :).

    if the hosting is bad for other people, it could be good for you or vice versa. If they are really bad, they would not be in this business anymore dont you think?
     
  6. isot0p3

    isot0p3 Registered Member

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    I use to use Webhostingtalk religiously until I found BHW
     
  7. sergey007

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    I always check Webhostingtalk and contact support before making an order. There are so many awful hosting companies out there that cannot even setup a new hosting account.
     
  8. nexusseo

    nexusseo Newbie

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    i found one quite interested in the past: webhostingstuff.com quite good, you can analyze the list of the domains that using the company from the review
    The best way if you want to do PBN is coming from different IP right, you can check the list of the company who got the IP directly from ARIN:
    https://www.arin.net/public/memberList.xhtml
     
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  9. macdonjo3

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    It's not a replacement. BHW doesn't really have web host reviews. It has the odd rant or complaint but WHT has a lot more reviews about most web host companies.
     
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    macdonjo3 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I've never had enough bad luck to buy 2 hosts from the same IP. As long as it's not EIG.
     
  11. Jack Torrance

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    You may be at risk if you use $1 hosts :)

    These ultra cheap hosts are a trademark of PBN websites. You best believe Google has a massive list of these hosts, and monitors sites hosted by them extra carefully.

    On an unrelated note I am pretty happy with my current host (real websites not PBN) and the speed is decent but I'm wondering if there's something better out there. It's a JOKE that there is almost zero information on the load times typical of hosting providers. Speed is the number 1 factor outside of content that determines your conversions and sales etc. Yet the reviews all try to compare "CPU, RAM" who fucking cares if it's got great CPU and RAM if the load times are 100000 seconds? And support lmao... Good support does not make up for pathetic load times. All I want to know is which host will load my pages the fastest without the server going down every other day. That's IT!!!!! How do I find this information? Nobody seems to care about speed there's barely any threads about it on WHT.

    Also I hate how there are SOOOOOO many providers. It's like shitty SEO packages. Every thread it's like "I recommend BieberHost!" "I recommend BlazinSpeedzHost!" "I recommend WeLuv2HostU!" new random-ass names you've never ever heard of being thrown around daily.
     
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  12. xjapan

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    i got an idea to save the cost and time. exchange the web hosting space in a small group, so basically just register 1 shared hosting per person and share with the members in that group, each will need to register 1 hosting. lets say if you have 20 people, probably will get 20s A class ips.
     
  13. MisterF

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    Could you share either on here or via PM, the hosting you are using please ?
     
  14. misteryou.

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    You can use Cloudfare to mask
     
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    I honestly never used a host that had slow loading speeds.

    Even the 10 $1/m host I use load my pbn sites like normal.
     
  16. Jack Torrance

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    Anything in the 3 to 5 bucks per month range ideally. I've used 1 dollar hosts but now I think it was probably a bad idea.
     
  17. Jack Torrance

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    And the search engines truly can't see the real host if you use Cloudflare Nameservers? Your site IP will be shared amongst other sites using the same host.
     
  18. misteryou.

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    The ways i know to get an ip behind Cloudfare is to ping ftp cpanel mail wich can be added in Cloudfare if i remember and bruteforcing DNS. Wich i doubt a crawler do.
    Or using a hosting history if the domain is aged.

    Sorry, but i don't see how a search engine can see the real host behind, it seems i need to learn more :/
     
  19. killerk

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    Hi thanks for the tips
     
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    Hopefully, my goal is achieved of helping out new members and guiding them in the right direction.