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Noob pushing the envelope?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by beardless, Sep 21, 2013.

  1. beardless

    beardless Newbie

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    Hi Everyone,

    I am following guides posted on this forum to help me on my path, Building niche websites in the hope of selling through Amazon and getting a few extra ££ from adsense.

    I have bought 5 domains, and it's my goal to have them ranked and getting traffic ready for Christmas

    Now I am not afraid of laying down some money to source unique content. but I am also looking to use some of the darker arts for SEO, commenting, and backlinking, and many other tools highlighted in various guides on this forum.

    My question is how far can these tools be used before you run the risk of being sandboxed? penalized? I have done a lot of reading here and many people are having problems with this and many seem to not be using the arsenal of black hat tools available to them?

    are pages sandboxed frequently, how far is pushing the envelope?

    Any rules of thumbs, tips for avoiding the wrath of the big G would be much appreciated.
     
  2. watsonovedades

    watsonovedades Senior Member

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    In a nutshell
    Keep your money site safe and with quality related backlinks
    Create web properties as buffer sites and blast backlinks to them
    the link juice will get to your money site

    Keep your web 2.0 properties healthy with new a unique content to gain authority on the eyes of google
     
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  3. the_demon

    the_demon Jr. Executive VIP

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    You really shouldn't be doing aggressive black hat until you're more familiar with SEO otherwise you're just going to penalize your sites.
     
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  4. beardless

    beardless Newbie

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    makes sense thank you both :)
     
  5. Scritty

    Scritty Elite Member Premium Member

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    Most modern SEO tools are perfectly good. It's the users that abuse them or don't have the basic SEO knowledge to even use them properly at all that is the problem.

    If you are new to SEO then my golden rule is NO AUTOMATION OR OUTSOURCING UNTIL YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING

    Automating a good process is good, if you have more than 2 or 3 sites it will likely be essential at some point - but automating a bad process is lethal to the health of your websites

    Good luck buddy. Getting 5 sites up and earning by Xmas should be quite easily possible if you put the effort in. :)

    Scritty
     
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  6. nanavlad

    nanavlad Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    The main thing is keeping your money sites safe.
    1st tier can be replaced at very little cost
    though it is better to protect them too

    There are no hard and fast rules about getting penalised

    sometimes its just luck
    I'e built sites the same way same backlinks
    some went down fast
    others lasted months

    Then on top of that, even if your 100% whitehat
    theres always the chance some prat will do Neg SEO on your site
     
  7. madoctopus

    madoctopus Supreme Member

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    Like Scritty said. Is not the tools that are bad. They're not perfect and some are frankly overpriced or simply not good enough to use IMO. However there are some that get the job done if you know how to use them. Most people don't know SEO though so even if they had every single tool they'd still fail.
     
  8. GigaGorilla

    GigaGorilla Junior Member

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    From my experience current SEO tools do work. You can start earning by Christmas if you put the time into it and have the motivation. I would start manually and then once you learn how to rank properly you can use tools to speed up this process and automate the whole thing. Turn and Burn SEO is when someone creates a website. Throws some link juice to it and ranks it temporarily to earn and they dont care about Google smacking it. However this is for people who already know how to create stable income.
     
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    web 2.0 properties and facebook likes