Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by FleshJoe, Jun 3, 2009.
Just an FYI -- PR sculpting is now a waste of PR juice...
So there you have it. As Cutts himself Twittered this morning: "Hey, did you hear our latest inside tip? Make relevant content. "
Best line of the whole article!
Google and the webmaster community obviously do not collaborate well. I say drop the nofollow regime if its causing problems, its not worth it. If you don't want a link to piggyback off of your site I thought it was as simple as not linking to the site, its not like you can't post the URL in raw text. Some people want convenience and privilege, never satisfied. I think this is good on Google's part, this will FORCE everyone to drop the whole nonsense about nofollow, and choose an option instead of having Google bend over to their needs. Selfish webmasters, they finally gain the attention of Google and they straddle it around selfishly.
"A bigger problem arises for those who are using it for its original intention, blocking comment spam. Under the new rules, a blog post that allows URLs in comments will lose most of its "link juice," since there will be many links on the page using up PageRank, but not passing it on. If there are two links in the post, and 98 links in the comments, the links within the article will be devalued, passing only 1/100th of the PageRank, instead of the 1/2 they used to pass."
This just plain suck. I think I'm going to disable the comment in my blogs.
This is interesting...It could give birth to a new kind of "backward spamming": You make comments in your competitor's blog just to take it down LOL
Unfortunately I think this is right on. I was having a problem with one of my blogs and cleaned it up. I turned off a couple of plugins and deleted all the comments. within a couple of days nearly a third of my pages shot up to the top 1-6 positions of page one in google. I am still enjoying that boost but I had no idea why it happened. Now I think I know why.
It is probably going to get harder to get external links from other sites in the near future if this is actually correct. It will make it tough to market anything when you have to build websites, blogs, and web 2.0 pages in order to create your own links. I would imagine that many more autoblogs will be popping up all over the place because most people don't have time to sit at home and type out articles all day. Imagine the demand for content when people begin to realize this.
It may make it harder as blog owners stop allowing links in comments. Then again, how many blog owners will actually read this article?
I'm a blog owner. My blog was a PR 4 with ******** and got dropped to a 2. I've since gone nofollow, now with this news I guess I need to figure out how to deal with comments now or say screw page rank all together. I don't want to disable comments but I don't want to be penalized either. Its like damned if you do damned if you don't.
Thanks for the heads up
I've been thinking for awhile about replacing my blog's comments with forums instead, so an article would just have one link to "Discuss this article in the forums" instead of having all the comments on the same page. Now that I've read this, I'm definitely gonna do that!
And now what i do with my set and forget blogs =P
Don't bother about PR. Focus in IM!
I guess this will raise the cost of banner ads to my clients but may lower the cost to us due to lower page ranking...
And put the forum into a subdomain so no PR bleed at all from the main domain.
Damn it I was just about to outsource someone to do some work with the blog commenter that I got free from this forum.
It was the one made by Jimbobo and seems to work nicely.
It searches for sites with DO FOLLOW links, ie that the name can add a clickable url not that you can publicly show the url in the comment. ( although I supposed you could )
With this new guideline in place would using this tool become futile or detrimental to our efforts??
Gah, so blog commenting is now worthless? Ugh.
Is link wheel the only tactic that still works?
How about links in forum profiles, blog rolls, etc.?
hmm, how about you spam competition blogs with links to sites like google and yahoo, it lowers their linking strength and they can't ban the url/ip if you use proxies...
So FINALLY,Nofollow is Good or not????
because i love to spam wordpress blog
I don't see it as having much of an effect.
Mind you, The actual words were "PR Sculpting doesn't have as much effect as it had before..meaning this change hasn't taken place today. Its been going on for a long time.
This means NOFollow for comments will not help as much as it used to in preventing link juice from leaving your page.
Blog commenting will still work as a backlinking technique. Maybe even more so.
Either way..PR has lost its value as compared to a few years ago. This isn't anything new.
Focus on Whitehat Blog farms. Build whitehat(yes whitehat) networks and make your own backlinks if you want to stay in the game.
So we still get a link (for backlink purposes) by posting in comments and inserting a link back to the site of our choice... just very little page rank juice, depending on the blog.
But to preserve page rank on our own blogs... can't we just tell our blogs to "Hold a comment in the queue if it contains 1 or more links. (A common characteristic of comment spam is a large number of hyperlinks.)" under the "discussion" setting of our "settings" tab?
That way people can still comment (fresh content, google loves) but keep links out which steal page rank.
This would work on autoblogs, would it not?
Just my $0.04 (inflation)
yeah,but i dont think if google know 100% sure.its easy to get pr4 with only oneway link pr5 targeted
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