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Nobody is safe anymore...

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by polymath, Nov 15, 2009.

  1. polymath

    polymath Registered Member

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    Hi, I have been reading this forums for about 2 months now. Learned a bit about email marketing, spamming, rotating emails, proxies etc...
    I'm a person that doesn't get nervous easily and I'm also the type of person that is quite secretive and has built a habit of covering his tracks. I have an engineering background and I have very good fundamentals about different technologies. I've worked in a huge telecoms company before so I know some things that they do inside.
    Since I've been reading this forum, I'm getting more and more paranoid to send spam and use other blackhat techniques. I don't feel comfortable even a dynamic IP address anymore because the surfing session is recorded by the ISP and has a record that the account under your name is using it at any point in time. I don't feel comfortable registering for an account that I will use in gmail or yahoo using the internet connection also because my IP address is recorded and the isp can expose my details any time to the authorities.
    But I think I've solved that problem. I'll just go around with my laptop and use free internet from hotspots around the city. I can't get caught that way and I can register in gmail and yahoo without getting my personal details from my isp exposed if ever the authorities dig for it.
    But I still have one problem. My CPA account still has my personal details and buyers can report my account and cpa can ban my account or even turn over my details to authorities. So, the theoretical solution I've thought of is to get a fake ID, make a fake identity, open an account with a local bank using that fake identity, get a credit card with fake identity, sign up with paypal also using the fake identity, then sign up with a CPA using the fake identity also. This way, I can withdraw my money through the bank. But there is still a clue that can be used against me...The picture that the bank take from me when I open an account...crap...I just can't think of a way to cover my tracks 100%.
    Am I getting really paranoid? or is there a real basis for my paranoia? In albert einstein's own words:"Is this world a friendly place?" more specifically, is this world a friendly place for BHWers?
    I didn't mean to scare anyone, I just want some reaction or feedback and for all of us to think of better ways to cover our tracks.
    I know some of the events I said above seem very farfetched and might not happen, but they're "what ifs" that could f**k our lives if ever we get caught. We wouldn't want to risk it do we?
     
  2. theWombat

    theWombat Regular Member

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    ummm.. if you're that paranoid, this probably isn't for you.. especially with that black helicopter that's been hovering over your house in the afternoons, :D
     
  3. oldenstylehats

    oldenstylehats Elite Member Premium Member

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    If you're in the US, good luck finding a bank that'll let you open an account without a social security number. In all seriousness, you don't have to spam to make money. In fact, most people who spam don't make money. Focus on learning the basics (HTML/CSS, SEO, PPC) and you'll benefit much more long-term than you will trying to play mastermind criminal.

    Seriously.
     
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  4. tzvii

    tzvii Registered Member

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    You could build a face with latex; it can look very realistic.

    But perhaps if your this concerned you should stay on the brighter side.
     
  5. rob19028

    rob19028 Registered Member

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    I would be more paranoid about opening a bank account in a fake name than spamming. You do not have to do either one of these actions to make money on the internet.
     
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    pewep Power Member

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    You've got your priorities in the wrong order.

    1. Make money first and make sure you actually have a profitable method (the harder step).
    2. Then worry about covering your tracks. Nobody's worried about a $100/day pipsqueak.
     
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  7. polymath

    polymath Registered Member

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    I guess you're right, I'm just very paranoid. Maybe because of the news that in china, a man was arrested for downloading a couple of shitty mp3 torrents just because one day, the officials wanted to make an example out of any random torrent user. I guess it's just some really bad luck:D
     
  8. lisagauss

    lisagauss Junior Member

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    At first when you start blackhatting, your paranoid, then you get used to it, I think this happens to just about everyone. Welcome to BHW.
     
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    keinehabe Supreme Member

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    just to add here using fake information's ( including the name misspelled lol - it's a felony ;) ) .
     
  10. iglow

    iglow Elite Member

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    if u make enough use offshore banking and ur 100% safe [well 99%]
     
  11. MrSmith

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    Some of the things are easier said than done - Even if you're in the right location to be making this kind of 'business'.

    Even if you're not in the US you'll have to go to great lengths to find scapegoats who won't rat on you if shit really hits the fan.

    And 'offshore' isn't always that easy. Your ID will be on some papers eventually unless you trust someone to have their feet in your footsteps and represent as 'you'.
     
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