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nobody cares about your business

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by firstnamelastname, Mar 14, 2017.

  1. firstnamelastname

    firstnamelastname Junior Member

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    I used to believe outsourcing SEO is a bad idea and I need to do everything myself. Then I went to this "inspirational" speech that said you have to question your current beliefs.

    Fine. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe all those people offering seo are not in fact retarded.

    Over the past 2 weeks, I have tried to hire people for guest posting. very straightforward job, write an article with my backlink, get paid.

    Guy #1: I found him by ahrefing a competitor. He apparently had guest posting access to a lot of sites. I hired him for one site. Shortly after, he died.

    Guy #2: found him on Upwork. need I say more?

    Guy #3: found him on fiverr. great ratings, perfect English, everything that would make you feel good was there. He just delivered my article. Terrible english. makes no sense. And it's not even unique, it's a straight copy/paste job. I don't understand how it got accepted. I am confident it will get deleted shortly.

    Guy #4: found him the same way I found Guy #1. He sent me his price list, we exchanged a lot of emails, maybe 40. everything was going fine. Then suddenly he died.

    Guy #5: Asked him for his price list. He says he wants to do a conference call to "find out about my needs" I told him to fuck off because I dont do conference calls.

    Guy #6: contacted my client and told him "hi sir, I can do your SEO for half the price sir"

    Have you found a reliable partner, or is everybody in this field retarded?
     
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  2. MatthewGraham

    MatthewGraham Regular Member

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    Like 99% of guest post services are a total disaster.
     
  3. Aehs01

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    You need to train them to do this, I highly recommend checking out Dan Ray's whitehat link building content. You basically form a team, a project manager (you most likely), a writer, a researcher and an outreach person. Train them using a system like Dan's and that's how you can scale it and do quality work.
     
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    Greengolegend BANNED BANNED

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    I don't get the point of this Thread
     
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  5. elchacha

    elchacha Newbie

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    it call havin a discussion about wheter or not it worth otusourcing

    and da state of the outsourcing and experience

    yada yada
     
  6. Sherbert Hoover

    Sherbert Hoover Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    So what you're saying is that if I want someone dead all I have to do is get to them through Ahreffing a competitior? 100% mortality rate? Gotcha.

    Okay buddy.
     
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  7. firstnamelastname

    firstnamelastname Junior Member

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    The point is, nobody cares about the success of your business. You're all alone. Maybe I am not making sense because I have a cold and taking a bunch of medication that's supposed to make me drowsy.

    come on man, when I say "died" I am using that term figuratively.
     
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    Sherbert was just joking, obviously. I think you are a tiny bit cranky. It's OK, bc no one likes to be sick.

    Now, I'm not trying to toot my own horn but a couple of my clients do outreach services. I write the articles for them to be placed. They have excellent communication with both me and their clients. But they aren't cheap either.

    What's your budget? Perhaps you should up it a bit. You get what you pay for.
     
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  9. firstnamelastname

    firstnamelastname Junior Member

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    I am not being cheap. And I am not giving "this guy is trouble" or "client from hell" vibes.

    What do you mean by "my clients" and "their clients" who are you in this chain? are you a middle man?
     
  10. seosnipe

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    Everything you say it's true. Majority of people that say they do guest posts are in fact using PBNs with premium themes and pretending its an outreach. There are maybe a few genuine sellers that do real guest posts, but then again these guest posts are on average DA sites which won't really push you up in search results.

    I suggest start doing out reach yourself to get the process right then find someone and train them to do that on a bigger scale and you just project manage.
     
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    I didn't know what your budget was but from your OP it looks like you were dealing with some clowns. That's why I asked what your budget was and then suggested you raise yours a bit. Nowhere in that post did I call you cheap. I made a suggestion. That is all.

    As for who I am in the equation, I'm the writer. I write the article for the company doing the outreach according to directions given to me by their clients. The outreach company is my client. Their clients are the people buying their outreach services.

     
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  12. mickyfu

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    What is so unbelievable that he came back to life?
     
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    Ofc no one cares about your business other than you, I mean why would they? Most of the people just want to do a half ass job, get paid for it and then go spend that money buying shit they don't need on Amazon or in some other useless way (and then they wonder why they are poor). When I was working 9-5 before starting in IM 8 years ago, I wasn't giving a shit about my employer as well - I was doing the job 100% though and to the expected quality nothing more nothing less.

    You need to hire people, train them and then set a quality standard that they have to abide to. And of course pay them well and treat them well, but apparently that's not your problem. That's the only way to get quality work done. Once you have a process in place, hiring & training people really doesn't take a long time providing they aren't doing anything extremely complex.

    In your case, I didn't quite get if you want to outsource article writing or finding sites for guest posting. If it's the later, do what I told you above. If it's article writing, then go with a freelancer, but be prepared to pay top dollar for real articles, not $5 shit. You can find some good freelancers right here in BHW.
     
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    You laugh but there is some real value in this thread.
     
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  15. mickyfu

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    I particularly like buying a "guest" post for $100 (and the service having great reviews ) only to find my post on some shit PBN site, which I could of paid $5 for over at Fiverr. That is some great ROI.
     
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  16. xplosiv

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    I just do it myself and create good content that would otherwise cost atleast 100-200 and submit to premium sites. I suggest learning how to write entertaining and persuasive content and so it yourself. I think a good outing in reviews will help everyone here on bhw and other marketplaces. Expose the cunts who sell pbn linka under the guise of out reached posts!
     
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    i can not spell or write correctly but use exspired articles and wordai and works for me.

    if you want a full team then hire a group of va , might be the ansaw.
     
  18. danparks

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    Not really news. That's pretty much true in any business.


     
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    dont most business get knocked even people that dont like nike knock nike ant that more about branding?
     
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    Who uses the word "died" figuratively? Oh yes, Shakespeare describing an orgasm. Wtf man I really thought people died. I was thinking don't work for this guy.

    I'm going through this problem too. My developer of 4 months just turned to crap. Not meeting deadlines (no pun intended) or even working at all. He asks me " Any work today?" I tell him and then I ask for an update, he says some lame excuse for not doing it.

    I even gave him my password to see the other developers I have in the stable so he would know to do his job or your replaced. He don't care, Little terd.