no point in buying views anymore, do it yourself

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your'e saying a ton of non sense. "major yt channels comes from external sources", that's incorrect, the majority of bigger YouTube channels traffic sources come from browse features and YouTube suggestions since their subscribers are active. the external views SMM panels offer like the "rav" or "eav" views come from pop ads; those ads are shown mainly on porn sites, since its really cheap. do you really think someone who watches porn is going to want to click off of porn hub to go watch a random YouTube video? I don't think so. So for you to say the content isn't good is just plain out ignorant. external views from sites like reddit are good because you can target a niche in Reddit, depending on the sub Reddit you post in. please stop spreading misinformation and ignorance on this thread

What the guy told you is 100% right, RAV and EAV views don't work because they're random retention, not because they're coming from External sources. It may be a ton of non sense for people which actually doesn't know what's really the thing about, but for hard rock coders it's the way to go, and you should take in mind what he told you because it's 100% right
 

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Hey Russ, I came up with this idea myself a while ago but never got around to trying it as... I was too lazy to make videos :p

But I was thinking, what if we pooled our efforts together? Create a discord group or something, have a couple of niches (max), and then I can give you views and you can give me views and we can multiply our efforts so even if each person only contributes say 200 accounts, if you have 5 people that's 1k. If each person did 1k and you had 10 people, that's 10k within a relatively short period of time of high quality views.
Yea it's like Instagram engagement pods with new twists, consider me in this
 

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The streetlight effect - occurs when people only search for something where it is easiest to look.

YouTube don't care where your views are coming from as long as they real views, it can be from porn site or wikipedia, if your video content is interesting for general random people
that mean some of them will watch it, or even like it, then you can try to boost it with ads views (watch-page not embedded!)

external Ads views are only made to jump-start a new video (when you don't have your own audience like subs) but if the video content is poor and have 0 zero viral potential then nothing will work!

manual artificial high retention will not have any impact (you can check those automated views services with that made for 4000 hours, those are long views but will never rank)
if someone say his DIY manual 20-30 views per day from his iphone got his video go viral, then share it with us, let us see the stats here ;)
 

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How do you use the user agent switcher on firefox mobile? I'm sure I have done it before, but I can't get it to work.

Right now I'm just using different browsers (firefox, opera, samsung browser, duckduckgo) instead.

Also what's your experience with social media? Every time I try facebook or reddit, my avg view duration goes down.

I have a small channel and am trying to kickstart it using your method.
Reddit fuckers just complained (on reddit, so I didn't even get yt comments for the sake of pleasing the algorithm) and didn't convert, so... Yeah.
 

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I agree, but i also disagree.. sorry to say but i think you are newbie when it comes to youtube.

there is no such thing as youtube favour his own platform... there is a reason why yt added social sites share links... (external views)... yt only needs engagement on there platforms.. they have no problem with viewa coming from unkwon sources... (but dont spam it)

to make a video viral all you need is 30 secs views contstantly ( i know 30 views are bad idea beacuse of low retention) but it does help you to get go viral.

Panel are may not be perfect... but if a panels able to provide 40% retention video, it means its worth it.
I agree with you Eric. Russ, I agree about engagements being important... The thing is you're both right, in a way, just using two different ranking methods!

*I'm* a noob, still, in my opinion. But after what I learned so far during experiments on my channels and after what I observed on different big channels in my niche there's no one right way to rank. People. There are different methods, and they work, sometimes by manipulating the same things in a different way, sometimes by manipulating completely different things. You guys are manipulating different parameters, and yt algo reacts to both methods, it seems.

And, due to this, I completely misunderstood Russ at first, because what that guy I bought from was doing was completely different method still, even though it was based on fake comments/likes/subs as well. It was different. And it worked too.

There are soo many different methods... You just need to figure out your own style and if it works, stick with it. But saying other method doesn't work only because you don't understand it is not a good idea... If you think about it, it makes sense. Naturally, there would be different ways in which a video could become popular. When we do blackhat or greyhat we just emulate what 'should' happen naturally.
 

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What the guy told you is 100% right, RAV and EAV views don't work because they're random retention, not because they're coming from External sources. It may be a ton of non sense for people which actually doesn't know what's really the thing about, but for hard rock coders it's the way to go, and you should take in mind what he told you because it's 100% right
Yup, I agree leda.

For god's sake, CyberEars... I just can't with that 'real' views bullshit... Each time I used actual real views it didn't work xD. Fake (as in completely fake, botted) traffic is the way to go. After that it was giving me real traffic from search (yt search and google/bing). I just can't with all that bot shaming and botnet shaming going around... I'd buy HQ bot and botnet services any time.
 

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Yup, I agree leda.

For god's sake, CyberEars... I just can't with that 'real' views bullshit... Each time I used actual real views it didn't work xD. Fake (as in completely fake, botted) traffic is the way to go. After that it was giving me real traffic from search (yt search and google/bing). I just can't with all that bot shaming and botnet shaming going around... I'd buy HQ bot and botnet services any time.

So you’ve had success recently with buying fake views the moment your video is live to push it into the algo or have I misunderstood what you mean?
 

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All external views are useless if the desired goal is a ranking.

However, if content such as broadcasters, animation production companies, etc. are available, RAV views can be useful.

Basically leave AdSense and find out how to use more copyrighted footage.

There are already many videos of families exploiting this.

Also, create or find software just for yourself and keep a private group.

Yet proxies and software work as tools for ranking.
 

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What do you offer? Yeah it would be nice to have thousands of accs watching our videos, but we are not at the same level as companies. We can't handle even 100
 

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Would do this manually on computer also work with those instance? Or this only work with mobile with your delete cookie before log in to another account?
 

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100% agree. We need to start doing the heavy lifting and get real interested viewers. It will pay off in the long run for sure.
 

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Would do this manually on computer also work with those instance? Or this only work with mobile with your delete cookie before log in to another account?
I'm not sure. I've never tested on the computer. But with a phone I know it works, because a phone is a mobile device, pair that with a 4g proxy and youre good to go.
 

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Using this method, a bot, and views from a not well known smm and i was able to rank a few videos in low ( i ranked 1st on a couple videos) medium (highest i got was 2nd) and high (got 1 video in the top 10) competition keywords, averaging around 2k views in the first day of uploading, i start the views with my phones and the bot while waiting for the SMM panel (i dont trust the "instant" start views, too sketchy, so usually 1-6 hour start time), so far so good, no drops and CTR and retention are through the roof before SMM views come through, im hoping to scale this to the point where i wont need SMM panel, right now im using 50 pva accounts with the bot (1 private dedicated proxy per account GOTTA SPEND MONEY TO MAKE MONEY INVEST IN YOURSELF) and 10 accounts i made myself via phone. So i can personally say this method works, it just takes a while, if you can pair it with a good bot and good proxies you can definitly rank, how high and how aggressively is depending on your budget and common sense, if you only have 100 accounts dont try to push 100,000 views to one video, make many videos and spread the views, dont be dumb, good luck to all!
 

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I'm not sure. I've never tested on the computer. But with a phone I know it works, because a phone is a mobile device, pair that with a 4g proxy and youre good to go.
It could work, just need 1 proxy per account and would need to be able to change your ip via network setting id assume, make sure to delete cookies always
 

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Well done! Great strategy.
Thank you, im going to continue working on it, see how high i can scale it, only issue becomes proxy cost, if i have 10,000 accounts, and need 10,000 proxies......
 

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Zennoposter(not advertising) can be used for this . for each account a separate profile and a separate proxy.
 
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