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No pagerank when buying an expired PR domain

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by davie9x, Oct 17, 2012.

  1. davie9x

    davie9x Regular Member

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    Hi guys, I bought a PR2 domain and hosted it. Now the PR is N/A. I checked the backlinks to the site and it has 5,5k backlinks (without w3). What's the problem?
     
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    Put some content back, permanently redirect missing pages too, and maybe wait?.
    I read - as in, people write about it, I have no first hand experience - that google is dropping PR for expired domains.
    In any case, hopefully with content those backlinks will eventually make sense again.
     
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    ja1myn Senior Member

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    It takes time. Basically Google saw the servers change and is evaluating the links to make sure they're worthy of giving your domain a PR2 still. No biggie. 90% of the time the PR will be back in a few days or less.
     
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    davie9x Regular Member

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    True that. I think that saw. Thanks :)
     
  5. Dj Co2

    Dj Co2 Elite Member

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    Time is a factor. Before, I bought domains that expired 6 plus months ago because they were cheap. I thought I got myself a "steal." However, only about 25% of these domains kept their PRs. But if you buy domains that expired less than a month ago, you're pretty much guaranteed to keep their PR (assuming it has a good backlink profile). My "rule" is not more than 14 days. Anything more and I'll pass on it. There are hundreds of thousands of domains expiring everyday so don't sweat it.

    Also, check how many times the domain was dropped. Max 1 drop is OK, 2 is not. If a domain expired 5 days ago and it shows 0 drop, once you register that domain it will now have 1 drop in its record so keep that in mind.
     
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    pooinmyloo Regular Member

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    What's your take on buying aged domains? I've recently found a way of finding dropped domains from 6+ years ago that still have live PR5 and above links pointing at them (as well as other backlinks). Most of these have MozTrust and MozRank in the 5's; have, as you said, few to no drops, and some even have a WhoIs history dating back to 2001. Other than hosting them on separate c-class', slapping on some content and maybe using them as a private blog network, could they have any other value as they are? Or are they just that, old expired domains?
     
  7. Dj Co2

    Dj Co2 Elite Member

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    Perhaps if you setup this old domain and then made new links straight to it and also made new links to the live pr5 links even though it already most likely has good links pointing to it then maybe it would count. I dont really know but that is the only thing i can think of.

    Also anyway can you PM me your method of finding these old domains. :p
     
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    Check if the PR is for non www or www version. Happened to me to buy a PR4 domain then when i added hosting etc and checked it was PR0 was like wtf! The www.site.com had PR4, then site.com had PR0. :)

    Simple.
     
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    danutz9100 Newbie

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    One had fake pagerank,taken from the redirect 401 and when you bought if updated the real !
     
  10. AzonGeek

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    Its some time happen. A few days ago I bought a domain with N/A Pagerank. After few days I notice I got PR3 :O
     
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    I hosted 4 of them last night as a tester. Just a wordpress template and a few posts of content. I'll start backlinking to them to get them crawled and see what happens over time. If they get their PR back then they're probably worth selling on.

    I posted my method in another post a week or so ago. It's the lengthy post by me in this thread:

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...d-aged-domains-related-niche.html#post4775077

    It's a bit of a long and tiresome process but it does work and there are some quality domains to be found.
     
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    How many referring domains though? How many are not nofollow? You should also looks for any old URLS of pages on the site and do a http 301 to the homepage. Have you checked if the links still exist and are not just being reported? Use the fresh index in majesticseo.com
     
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    Nice method.. I remember a friend of mine sharing something like this with me some time ago. He said however that finding domains like this was almost impossible. But he did find old blogs. something like someonesoldblog.blogspot.com and then went and registered this account on blogspot as someonesoldblog and got the Pr that way. Anyways, do let me know your results when you're done with testing the domains.
     
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    A lot of them are blogspot style domains, but it depends on what keyword you use. I did initially start with the keyword 'blogroll', but there were just a tonne of those blogspot domains to trawl through that I gave up, and most of them were .com which meant I couldn't register them here in the UK. But the beauty is that there are shedloads of keywords to choose from and every search brings up something different.

    I'll let you know how I get on and if anything happens PR wise. It could all just be a waste of time, but you never know.
     
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    Sorry for not updating.. It went back to PR2. I just installed 301 and linkjuice plugin - It will redirect all the old backlinks to the homepage. It just need time to recover.. :)
     
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    Always happens, and PR always returns. It is not the 301 redirect that fixed it.

    Google crawled your domain at some point when it did not have a robots.txt -- whenever you are in such situations, upload robots.txt and a simple homepage (no content needed) then give it a few days (you may also ping).
     
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    It is going to take a little time, you need to wait for a while. Be patient.