Niche edits and guest post from large sites and without internal backlinks are quite useless

I have bought lots of niche edits links from reputatable sellers from BHW. I have manually checked that all the sites are spam free, has traffic and if it is increasing, what are the ranking keywords and so on.
I didn't get any results from these niche change links and so I notice is that none of these posts have any internal backlinks.

Lately I've been manually searching for niche edits that already have internal links pointing to them and are from medium-sized sites, max 250 pages. These niche edit links have boosted my ranking quite well and quickly.

So my hypothesis is that there is a HUGE juice difference (or even quite useless) between niche edits links from large sites (1000+ posts) and without internal links pointing to the post, compared to a medium size site with internal links pointing to the niche edit post.

Same thing with guest posts.

are those posts even indexed? Are those links indexed? Not that I dismiss the importance of internal links but I find it hard to believe that they're the reason for the lack of results.

Also, how do you know which links are the ones that boosted the rankings? Because if you've pointed them all at the same URL it could have been any one of those links that did the job. And what about the nofollow tags? Did you check whether the links from the big sites have nofollow attached to them? Because if they do you're not going to see any link juice passing through into your site, therefore no ranking boost due to those links

So what you are saying is that this comes down to proper on-page SEO?

I highly doubt that that's the case.

Most of the site owners are doing internal linking if the site has good traffic or you were buying links from a neglected guest post farm.

I mean, as a link seller myself, I don't quite even see pages (article pages) that haven't linked to other inner/internal relevant pages so you bought links to empty articles or only that had outbound links?

Totally true, that's why the article not being orphane is one of the requisite I ask when buying a guest post.
Also, the best results I get are when I buy a monthly sitewide link.

Well, it is simple logic and its quite astonishing how many people don't get it, right!

You are 100% spot on for the first past. Of course orphan pages are useless because they got no juice from their website. Actually, its not about interlinking, its about backlinks as whole. The page which has the besy backlink is the best page on the website. So, if you get a backlink from it even though it has no interlinking, you will get huge boost. Which never happens

What you get is backlink from a page with no backlinks. So, is it getting interlinked from strong pages on the website with huge backlinks, again, if yes, then this is why you get a boost, if not, then you get nothing.

Now, for the second part, which is number of website pages. Well, same rule applies but there is a catch. A website with 1000 pages means its backlink power is diluted. So, you need much more backlinks to get same boost from the smaller website. So, number of pages doesn't matter. It's how powerful are the backlinks you get through the interlink.

gm90 said:

Totally true, that's why the article not being orphane is one of the requisite I ask when buying a guest post.
Also, the best results I get are when I buy a monthly sitewide link.

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Sitewife backlinks are vwey powerful but if you have good competition, you will go down with time. Give it 8 months and its power will start to fade. Same as 301 redirects

KHer0 said:

Sitewife backlinks are vwey powerful but if you have good competition, you will go down with time. Give it 8 months and its power will start to fade. Same as 301 redirects

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that's true about the fading in the competitive niche but in competitive niche I've seen every kind of links to fade after a bit. I think you need to keep building links actively with no stop

Tomper said:

I have bought lots of niche edits links from reputatable sellers from BHW. I have manually checked that all the sites are spam free, has traffic and if it is increasing, what are the ranking keywords and so on.
I didn't get any results from these niche change links and so I notice is that none of these posts have any internal backlinks.

Lately I've been manually searching for niche edits that already have internal links pointing to them and are from medium-sized sites, max 250 pages. These niche edit links have boosted my ranking quite well and quickly.

So my hypothesis is that there is a HUGE juice difference (or even quite useless) between niche edits links from large sites (1000+ posts) and without internal links pointing to the post, compared to a medium size site with internal links pointing to the niche edit post.

Same thing with guest posts.

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I for one prefers a page with search traffic to one with backlinks. And I've never gone wrong with that.
Having search traffic means the page is already of good quality from thr point of view of Google. A page could have backlinks but those links are from equally useless or worthless pages. Meaning, no impact would be made.

Tomper said:

So my hypothesis is that there is a HUGE juice difference (or even quite useless) between niche edits links from large sites (1000+ posts) and without internal links pointing to the post, compared to a medium size site with internal links pointing to the niche edit post.

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You have a very good point... let me chime in.
1. Huge sites have so many posts so there'll little to no link juice flowing to your site.
2. Percentage-wise, smaller sites have more pages indexed. Big sites constantly adding content will get their older posts de-indexed to "make room" for newer posts. So don't be surprised if your niche edit posts get de-indexed. But on smaller sites they are much more likely to stay indexed for longer.
3. Huge sites, which sell guest posts, will inevitably have keyword cannibalisation.
This is my take... or my $0.02