1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

NFL chokes on their own greed

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by loclhero, Sep 26, 2012.

  1. loclhero

    loclhero Supreme Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2007
    Messages:
    1,453
    Likes Received:
    2,413
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Copperhead Road
  2. thejake

    thejake Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2009
    Messages:
    685
    Likes Received:
    828
    I don't get how guys who work 16 nights a year, for 3 hours a night, and get paid $150k a year on average to do so feel the need to walk out when unemployment is near double digits and the economy is in the crapper. Who's being greedy again?
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  3. twistedtrick

    twistedtrick Power Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2009
    Messages:
    654
    Likes Received:
    376
    Location:
    United States
    I misunderstood...oops. Shouldn't have posted.
     
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2012
  4. ryce889

    ryce889 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2008
    Messages:
    490
    Likes Received:
    152
    Location:
    NY, NY
    They do it because they know their worth... as can be seen by the replacement refs, the guys wearing those stripes can't be as easily replaced as the NFL thought... the NFL grossed 9 billion in revenues last year, so there's no reason they can't continue with a guaranteed pension plan, especially since it's estimated to only save them a few million...
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  5. loclhero

    loclhero Supreme Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2007
    Messages:
    1,453
    Likes Received:
    2,413
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Copperhead Road
    I won't get into the debate on all of that because I'm always going back and forth on the whole union thing. On one hand you have unions everywhere that grab and grab and grab until shit falls apart. GM comes to mind, the LAUSD comes to mind. The list goes on.

    On the other hand, if it wasn't for unions, the regular working stiffs in this country would be working under 1899 conditions. Think NYC Triangle Shirtwaist factory fire.

    Then you get a sitiuation like this and yeah I agree with you but I'll ask you, when the players themselves strike, in whatever sport, do you feel the same way? The fact is that the refs are paid that much because they are the best at what they do. That's been proven. But there is no way I can compare the "greed" of a guy making $150k a year (and I can tell you, $150k a year isn't all that much if you're living in a lot of places) with BILLIONAIRES talk out their ass about the integrity of the game and then pull this shit.

    And don't forget, these same fucking douchebags hired replacement PLAYERS 25 years ago. That's how much they care about the integrity of the game.
    It is about one thing for them, money. If all the sheeple sitting on their fat asses all day Sunday decided to turn off the fucking tv, you'd see the owners start sucking the ref's dicks to get them to come back to work.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  6. thejake

    thejake Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2009
    Messages:
    685
    Likes Received:
    828
    I feel both sides in entertainment-related industries should work as hard as they possibly can to avoid stoppages, walkouts, and lockouts, because the whole world is watching in a nearly literal sense. In terms of the "billionaires" I don't see why if the guy in stripes on the field is worth $400 an hour why anybody would begrudge the CEO of his employer $1600 an hour. In any event the NFL is the last place I'd go looking for "integrity," doping, bounties, Goodell's MVP selective enforcement, and who knows what else that hasn't come to light haven't happened in a vacuum.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  7. loclhero

    loclhero Supreme Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2007
    Messages:
    1,453
    Likes Received:
    2,413
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Copperhead Road
    All good points but you also just reminded me of something. This isn't a strike. It's a lockout. Again. Once again as in the cba last year, the owners have basically said, "Fuck you. We aren't even discussing this".


    Not me. I say make whatever you can in this life and not only don't begrudge them of making as much as they can, I think it's great that they have. But you've kind of put each shoe on the wrong foot. I would think the better question would be, if a corporation is worth 10 billion dollars, why would anyone begrudge the staff of one of it's most important departments the REQUEST for a raise?

    And it's not me who is looking for integrity. I'm old enough to not even expect it anymore. It's been Goodell's creed and mantra.
     
  8. Roparadise

    Roparadise BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    May 25, 2011
    Messages:
    786
    Likes Received:
    1,417
    I hate the NFL so much, they bullsh*t cities into thinking they bring such a massive boost in revenue to a city,but in reality they dont.
     
  9. loclhero

    loclhero Supreme Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2007
    Messages:
    1,453
    Likes Received:
    2,413
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Copperhead Road
    Yeah but having lived in LA until recently, it sure sucks from having 2 teams down to zero.
     
  10. Roparadise

    Roparadise BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    May 25, 2011
    Messages:
    786
    Likes Received:
    1,417
    Having a team is cool,but its not cool when the local politicians bs people into thinking that a Sport's team is the best thing for a city and bs the people into thinking its ok to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to build a new stadium.

    http://books.google.com/books?id=HNjyW6cH1cgC&pg=PA174&lpg=PA174&dq=baltimore+ravens+only+contribute+$5+million+to+economy&source=bl&ots=6An79glTws&sig=g1FHkfwJ1AVWcKa-y6Y7OdKlEbo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=io1jUOyiLo_c8wT8lIGgDQ&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=baltimore%20ravens%20only%20contribute%20%245%20million%20to%20economy&f=false
     
  11. dubious

    dubious Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2012
    Messages:
    235
    Likes Received:
    222
    Occupation:
    Project Manager/Business Development Manager
    Location:
    Australia
    Roger Goodell when negotiating with the Referees.

     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
    Last edited by a moderator: May 18, 2016
  12. loclhero

    loclhero Supreme Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2007
    Messages:
    1,453
    Likes Received:
    2,413
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Copperhead Road
    ^^ LMAO..fucking classic
     
  13. artificial_genius

    artificial_genius Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2011
    Messages:
    864
    Likes Received:
    314
    Home Page:
    Unions are mostly outdated. If a ref doesn't think they are getting paid enough, then they should quit and supply and demand will figure out the right price for them.

    In the end, both sides are being greedy.
     
  14. thejake

    thejake Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2009
    Messages:
    685
    Likes Received:
    828
    After the Packers game last night I want the replacement refs back.