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News about G Panda might be bad ones !!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by HostStage, Jun 1, 2011.

  1. HostStage

    HostStage Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member UnGagged Attendee

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    Hey,

    i've barely read an article about G. Panda that i'm willing to share here !

    One of the best french website (webrankinfo) just made an article about G panda and what SEO aspects he could be relied on :


    1) Bounce Rate

    Bounce Rate might be an indicator to see if the website provides good information to the visitor. Google is aware of the bounce rate thanks to Analytic, adsense, adword, chrome browser, doubleclick ...

    --> It can be faked with 2 tracking analytic codes in some pages in some cases.

    2) Click Rate (CTR)

    Webmaster tools give you the click rate compared to the number of times your website appears in users search queries.

    If your snippet isn't good then it may have something wrong about your website !
    According to SEO's expert, this aspect might trigger another rule to improve / penalize SEO, meaning that it doesn't affect the website directly.

    3) TIme Of a visit

    Time of a visit provide Google some very good information dealing with the quality content. It has to be less important than other aspect as far as a user can find his information at first glance and close the page in few seconds.

    4) Pogosticking

    Pogosticking is used to check if there is a bounce from your website to another with the same query. The time in this aspect is important. If a visitor go to your website then go back to his query and go to your competitor and stay there longer than in your website, it means that there is something wrong about your content


    Google may use these aspects in order to measure visitor's satisfaction about a website and that would be the reason why they want us to put robot : noindex on low quality pages ...


    The real trouble out here is that only Google could have the information about some aspects very tough to react then.

    Does Faking trafic is the future of BH ?

    What do you guy think about it ?

    "FInd this useful you can thank me or gimme rep, it is always appreciated ;)"
     
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  2. trafficsource

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    smart post. honestly I have been using these stuff many months.
     
  3. bulldogzg

    bulldogzg Senior Member

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    Interesting post, thanks for sharing.

    It would also be fun to know much will it actually affect the SERP's.
    How much % in the algorithm does it affect cause I'm still a firm believer that nothing can beat good quality, high pr, do follow contextual links, but I also got a pretty decent site stuck in the lower pages after the Panda hit.

    This is obviously G's new attempt to get rid of affiliate pages who's only goal is to "transfer" the visitor to the actual offer.

    I'm thinking this is in the same direction as +1 implementation, guess we'll just have to wait and see what's next.
     
  4. HostStage

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    i Wish i can test all the thing out but Panda is coming in 2 months in my country ;)
     
  5. wokaka

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    i believe bounce rate and CTR will play more important factor in future SEOs as well as that +1 implementation but as of now? Nope. I still see tons of shitty sites on top of SERPs. Their bounce rate must be a joke
     
  6. xthoms

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    I got a one page site that is ranking with around 20k links in one device and 10k links in yahoo..

    It's bounce rate is 100% as its really just one html page.. The CTR is sick though :p
     
  7. greggggg

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    I guess I'll never be passing Yelp then.
     
  8. googlemonster

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    Don't agree with much of that tbh. Here is why:

    Google doesn't have enough data to make decisions on bounce rate only about 28% of sites have analytics, and their browser share isn't that high.

    Secondly pogo makes little sense, because if you are researching some topic, you might view the first then second then third and from that you have a decent amount of research, but this is not to say the third is better because you pogo'd. It is just that the human, is looking for more sources from the list. Also this can be forged, where you add a read more, or multiple pages for one article.

    One change they made was a document level classifier, which basically looks at the query, and then reviews the page, if the page has a high amount of repeated phrases, it is deemed to be of a lower quality. It is basically a better spam detection tool. Some data they might look at is how many blocked via chrome, and compare that data to some other data. All very messy to do with scripts imo.
     
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    Thank you OP for sharing this useful info. Now, i see why my sites were de-indexed.
     
  10. TNphoneman

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    You better do some more research, that is not the reason it was deindexed.
     
  11. richcamp

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    Kindof stupid if google actually punishing people that uses their free services isn't it?
     
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    do no evil mantra went down with titanic
     
  13. hispdcha

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    I just finished writing a huge reply on Panda, but these moderation rules won't let me post it!!!! There are no links or anything in it, just a very detailed outline of my assessment, grrrrr. Looks like I can't share something that would be extremely beneficial. Sorry guys, until next time!
     
  14. BlackxHat

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    Anyone know the source of OP's post?