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newly diagnosed adhd and IM- any tips? successful adhders? (I have a business plan)

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  1. rainontheground

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    Hi All,

    So I know there will be quite a few posts saying how adhd doesn't exist, it was created to sell pills, etc, etc. Go ahead and post! I'm just letting you know you will be wasting your time. To anyone with adhd--- try not to let posts like that get you down. :)

    I've been a lurker on here for quite some time. I've had a business plan involving social media and 7878's method for two years now. I have recently starting acting on it more. I have 30 businesses review's bookmarked, personalized white paper, fee structure, some service guidelines for me, and this is all as of today. :p

    I started treatment for adhd a few months ago, and my life is improving. I would like to start trying to move to self employment, because honestly it seems fun, exciting, and way less complicated then holding down a retail job where I won't make enough to pay for the rest of school, and makes my schedule impossible to organize. I have some school debt, but refuse to take out more loans because I'm starting to view post education (and education) in the US as a scam. I still want a degree, but more because I always wanted that college experience, and I think it will be good for social interaction as well as super technical courses. (And CU loves weed).

    I'm going for a B.S in Software Engineering or Human Centered Computing. I'm currently at community college and finally doing well after failing out of university, losing my mother to type 1 diabetes, and being diagnosed with adhd. My life makes a lot more sense now. I'm still going "poor/why me", but I'm quickly moving out of that.

    I'm thinking of doing the social media/ORM because I just get it! I've been revisiting it time and time again these past two years. I am very passionate about how a companies online presence can impact their bottom line, and how understanding this online presence can help your business, non profit, etc, etc. Basically the internet fascinates me, I have some complicated website/social media ideas for certain minorities/social issues, but I know I will not be able to act on those for a few years as I need to learn website design.

    The only thing I don't like about 7878's method is I fear businesses will not attempt to change any inherent problems, even with the review summaries I will send them, and people will get angry at my business for doing something "unethical".

    I'd hire out taxes, and outsource a lot. I have some savings from when my mom passed, so I'm thinking of taking out say $2000 for startup.

    It's kind of funny, because I always knew what I wanted to be when I grew up.... that person going from meeting to meeting, stopping by the office to address a project, taking a break at the gym, doing various small projects, checking in with my various teams and traveling for business. I like things that are exciting, fast paced, chaotic (tho not life or death), with a lot of new information. IM seems perfect for this. I also LOVE social media, and LOVE to talk about how important social media is.

    However, I'm looking for honest input from IMer's who have ADHD. My family/therapists either doubt I can have my own business, or they just kind of ignore it when I bring it up. I think this has caused me to become very overwhelmed, because life doesn't work on a retail income, and I feel like they never really listen to me. Add a very sick mother, coming out, failing out of school, and fighting undiagnosed adhd subconsciously... I was just exhausted, and stopped doing anything. I also smoked a ton of pot, which I think caused quite a bit more procrastination problems. I have cut back to only weekend nights between 7pm-midnight. I feel like I am being very realistic with myself, but I have messed that up before.

    I don't know exactly what to ask, so this is a bit rambling. (That is one thing that I will need to practice before meeting with clients-conversational skills). My conversational skills didn't use to be so bad, but I've been very isolated. I don't have social anxiety, I like telling people what's good for them, esp. when it comes to tech.

    Roadblocks I need help getting over (therapists have been useless in the work situation- as they refuse to do more than acknowledge my self employment dreams):

    1) Organizing thoughts/points before meetings with clients
    2) Being able to speak clearly when asked questions, or interrupted
    3) Accountability during uninteresting times
    4) How to make your business adhd proof (I've got some savings wiggle room)
    5) Any organizations tips to not forget little details (I currently use ical, mindmaps, evernote, and reminders)
    6) Do you work in spurts, or do you try to keep to a schedule
    7) Anything?!

    I so appreciate you taking the time to read this, I know it's not a typical blackhatworld post, but I bet it might help some people. :) (And yes I do take meds, they've helped a lot, but I know it's not the end all be all)

    Any tips/advice/experiences will be greatly appreciated.
     
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  2. loamigad

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    If you get adreall just take it. Maybe a bit higher when you want to work but i don't know tbh. Heard alot of college kids do that over there in the us. And it's ADHD medicine containing amphetamines.
    Edit: My uncles new thing is a psychotherapist. First time i meet her she tried to analyze me and said i had ADD so who knows..
     
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  3. baseballfan1

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    Keep moving forward and always stay positive. You are moving in the right direction with your degree.

    I know a guy on this forum that use's 7878's method everyday. I will give him this link and tell him to stop by. He could give you some good advice and someone you can collaborate with.
     
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    Self-employment is difficult enough. You might start off doing something that has only limited human interaction. Most people will not tolerate doing business with someone that is all over the map.

    Even if the ADHD were not an issue, the basic rule is always to find a secure financial foundation that works, first, before moving into unknown, risky and potentially unprofitable territory. One does go directly from dreaming about being successfully self-employed to living their dream of being successfully self-employed, without a series of intermediary steps, and in this regard it is no different than being someone else's employee. You have to clean the toilets before they let you run the company. As the owner of your business, you'd be stupid to hire yourself without any experience and a proven track record. And that's what being self-employed is. When they say you are "working for yourself" they really MEAN you are working for yourself, as in you are in at least two roles. One as owner and manager, and the other as worker, laborer, employee, etc... There is probably a very good reason why your therapists are giving you a highly neutral response on the idea, and it would be a good idea for you to pay attention to exactly what their opinions & thoughts are, because there is a really good chance they know you better than you know yourself.
     
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    5). Excess paper makes me disorganized. So, I try to limit all paper, lists, etc to one sheet of paper everyday. I create a task-list of 5 items max and use the margins for notes. When I start projects, I do use a printed mindmap to keep everything in one place.

    6). I have a schedule that I try to adhere to during my "productive" hours of the day. I use an app for this. Time is blocked in 50 or 90 min blocks.
     
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    I know a couple IMers who have SERIOUS ADHD and make a ton of cash.

    My tip for you is to grab evernote. Write down ideas in there, and limit yourself to working on 10. I would also try to find someone to stay on top of you and make sure you are getting shit done. (Preferably someone you do not like very much as them constantly nagging you will make you hate them... dont get a girlfriend to help or you will break up.. lol)

    ADHD is how the internet works... if you can stay on something long enough and still be interested you have a huge winner of a site.
     
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    you have ADHD !? how long did it take you to write this post ?
     
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    I am sorry to hear our situation and I am glad to see that you are still trying your best to move forward.

    However, I think there might be some misunderstanding in regards to 7878's method. From my understanding, his method is to:

    1) Identify qualified prospects / businesses via Google+Local / Yelp / All those popular platforms
    2) Email them with your research and let them aware about what people say about their business
    3) Offer help. Let them know how you can help them recover.
    4) Create a funnel that helps ENCOURAGE real customers to leave a positive review while sending unhappy customers to a contact form instead (This help minimize the chance of getting more negative reviews).

    So I don't quite see any unethical actions here. We aren't leaving fake reviews or anything. We are helping by creating a 'solution' for them to gain reviews effortlessly.

    Some may argue that having a 'funnel system' like that is 'unethical', but in my opinion, I dont see anything wrong with that, because that contact form is linked directly to the CEO/Owner email account / contact. So he/she will be the first to be notified regarding any unhappy experience and the owners usually promise me they will get it resolved immediately. (And they WILL care).

    At the end of the day, issues get resolved. Happy customers appreciate the business and leave feedback. I get paid. So its a win-win-win (triple wins) for everyone.

    I would recommend reading netmoney's and fistor's thread about their experience and their methods. Their threads helped me a lot and have inspired me. I learned a lot from them. They are both friendly people on BHW and even took their time answering my PMs despite their busy schedule and success.

    Hope it helps!
     
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  9. rainontheground

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    "Self-employment is difficult enough. You might start off doing something that has only limited human interaction. Most people will not tolerate doing business with someone that is all over the map."


    Thanks for this comment! Forgot to hit quote. I'm going to respond as a way of helping myself organize my realistic thoughts from my impulses. I'm also tend to forget important information in my original posts. D: It's nothing defensive! So I hope it doesn't come across that way. :)

    1) I should have said I have very little social interaction outside of the web. I venture all over the city, and have been attending school again. My mood has been very stable during school/work it's evenings with family I start getting overstimulated. However, great point, because stress also effects my mood, so that's one of the flaws I'd have to have a backup or "oh **** abandon ship" plans. Maybe my cousin could meet with a client if I am too overwhelmed? I see this happening rarely. My moods were pretty stable before the total upheaval of life that occurred two years ago, and I feel similar to that again.

    2) Is this financially stupid? I live with my grandma, with blessings I am using part of my mother's pension money for what I call the "get life together fund". I have 120K in various CD's that I can't touch for various amounts of years. This pension came out of nowhere, as I was poor growing up, so I think fear helped get me to put that **** into CD's and not go traveling. I will have to outsource or do something when it comes to accounting.

    3) I need to talk to the ADHD specialist more about this, I've only seen him three times, and made snap judgements. I don't explain personal stuff well, so I probably haven't even really talked about it other than going "I hate service jobs, I want to be self employed" and "I can do it cause it's the internet". Whereas, I actually have done a ton of research. My other therapist didn't truly believe I had adhd, so I take her comments regarding my abilities with a grain of salt. She's my longest standing therapist, and is an excellent specialist in an area of the LGBT community, which is why I picked her in the first place. Must talk about this to the ADHD therapist next session.

    Overall, I need to have a lot of fallback plans for when I get off track, as well as some "oh **** abandon ship" if my finances or reputation are massively on the line. Now what exactly? That's the next step. Edge Foundation is getting me in touch with a coach, so hopefully that will be soon, and helpful.
     
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    Evernote is my favvvv. Mindnotes I have found extremely helpful for brainstorming also, esp. stuff that starts to circle in my head.
     
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    "you have ADHD !? how long did it take you to write this post ?"


    Hahaha. I can focus on reading, and writing sometimes. When I want to (isn't that the key?) or it's about me! Still I've probably spend four hours on this post tonight. :p

    I attempting to earn money through iWriter for awhile...... now that is something I cannot do.

    I'll start hitting the quote button (I need to watch for those little mistakes more). I'm feeling pretty good tonight, because I've got pretty good responses on here, so thank you!
     
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    Remembered! It's late, and this post has made me hyper. I will need someone to triple check all my written documents.

    Yeah, it's totally ethical. I just feel like review sites were build with the intention to show the most honest feedback for a company, and we are messing with it. However, no we aren't. If anything, we are making review sites more effective at creating a better product/service. This is a really random thought process my mind sometimes gets stuck on when I focus on this method. I think it's my minds way of saying "you can run".

    I just need to learn to keep pushing it back, because it's just a negative thought that's trying to get in the way.

    Basically, I think a lot about everything.......
     
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    In my opinion, people 'usually' leave a negative review because they want attention. They want their issues resolved and not really to bad-mouth that company.

    No company is perfect afterall and no company can satisfy all their customers. However, they can get things right and resolve issues if being addressed.
     
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    I'll chime in on this one. I'm mild ADHD, and while I can control myself and "maintain an even straight" when I need to... My brain never really does. I process 7-15 ideas simultaneously.

    You need to learn how to funnel your energy and learn to focus on getting things done. It's easier said than done. It took me years to figure it out when I was a kid.... But once I learned, I discovered how to really take advantage of it.

    I currently own 9 business... And while I have managers that deal with the day to day operations on most of them, I know everything that is going on with each one of them. I generate more new ideas than my employees can, and I know more about each employee than their manager does.

    I personally am well into the mid xx,xxx a month, so yes it can Be done with ADHD. You actually have an advantage once you learn to manage your brain like a filing cabinet. If you work on it enough you can have a full conversation with someone, be completely involved in it... And be coming up with a marketing strategy on a completely different subject... At the same time.

    I have never, nor will I ever take medication for my ADHD. It is controllable, you have to figure out how to make it controllable. It is not easy, but it CAN be done.

    Good to luck to you! Let me know if I can help