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new twist on the nigerian scam, they're making payment via paypal now?? O.o

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by n00by, Aug 28, 2009.

  1. n00by

    n00by BANNED BANNED

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    HMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm idea:


    Step 1: Open fresh paypal account with fresh bank account,

    Step 2: Get money from Nigerian's paypal

    Step 3: transfer that shit to bank account

    Step 4: withdraw Nigerian's $$$$

    Step 5: Close Bank account ASAP!!





    Could just work. Doubt I'll "take action" on this one though
     
  2. oxonbeef

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    You'r asking to be arrested even thinking about withdrawing that.
     
  3. madlind

    madlind Registered Member

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    The way this usually works is the cheque clears initially, allowing you to withdraw funds, however some days later, it is found to be a fake cheque. Even if the bank account has been closed by you, I think you are still liable to re-pay the funds. Of course it depends on which country you are in and the relevant laws. I'm in Cyprus, and they are targeting this country very heavily, the laws do not protect us against these scams. Be very careful with these scams. My friend would not listen to my warnings and lost out on hundreds, he is still trying to re-pay the amount to the bank, and having lost his job too, he is in real trouble now. I warned him to rip up the cheque, and I will also warn you too, if you will listen, don't get involved with these scams.
     
  4. n00by

    n00by BANNED BANNED

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    its not a check, its a paypal payment. I don't quite see how they can send a "fake" paypal payment, maybe they're hacking peoples accounts or something. IDK
     
  5. DrJekyll

    DrJekyll Senior Member Premium Member

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    I quoted the best idea in this thread.

    If you cant open accounts with fake id, forget it. and it is not a topic of this forum
     
  6. oxonbeef

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    No shit! Sherlock.
     
  7. Alex Brooks

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    Not at all, I know plently of people who 'hack' for a living, ordering mass amounts of products online using stolen/hacked credit-cards and handling stolen Paypal money, it's risky, but if you know what your doing, it can be done and you can end up with quite a lot of money!
     
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    stealing is stealing no mater of what , and online payment systems are continuously under such attacks . Like Alex said , if you know what you are doing then you can trick the system ... if you are such kind of person who's never do something by yourself only doing things what you read on ebooks and articles ... :) Actually jails are full with mule's/first line drops and such ... :)
     
  9. BlackHattin

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    You won't be arrested for doing that but when the real owner of the paypal account finds out he will do a chargeback your 'new' paypal will go negative then in a couple of weeks your have a debt collector phoning then a couple of weeks after that your have someone at your door and if you tell them to fuck off in a couple more weeks there be back with a court order and your be off to court =)

    **Just thought i'd edit this to make it clear that i think it's a BAD idea unless you do it large scale and run away to like iraq then you might get away with it**.
     
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  10. n00by

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    I'm in no way justifying or even SUGGESTING doing this, but for the sake of arguement I'll play the devils advocate here:

    First of all its a pretty broad assumption that all of this stuff will happen (bill collectors/court orders)

    I know for a fact paypal won't do SHIT but spam you with automated email reminders saying you owe them a balance. There isn't shit they can do... you can tell them to fuck off lol.

    Obviously if one were doing this you'd want to use a throwaway # and possibly even a B.S. address on the bank account although I highly doubt they'd go that far. You can go close the bank account, Ive done this before and even told the bank "Paypal are a bunch of thieves, I'm closing the account because I dont wan't paypal scamming me out of money they THINK that I owe them" and the banks, having heard of many complaints of eGay ACH drafting people and causing people's banks to overdraft, will take your side, because remember - YOU are thier customer, paypal isn't their customer.

    As far as bill collecters, I have far from perfect credit ( i have a bunch of collection accounts actually) and I have never had a bill collector knock on my door - I've had them call me once or twice, but I just tell them to STOP CALLING. If someone knocked on my door I would tell them to FUCK OFF, and if they didn't or they came back again I would call the police and file harassment/tresspassing charges.

    Anyways - much ado about nothing because like i said, just the act of setting up a new bank account probably isn't worth the amount of money recieved unless we're talking about 4-5K... who knows ;)
     
  11. greenovni

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    lol, I just received payment emails from 'paypal' and no $$$ in my account.
     
  12. n00by

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    LOL ohhhhh I see... they're probably spoofing paypal payment notifications so people THINK they're getting paid but not really. okay whole big discussion was for nothing then :D