New-ish, making a little progress, but having a hard time finding what I need….

wyld

wyld

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So I’ve been in the YouTube game doing this for a loooooong time. I do “ok” but it’s always been a side-hustle and could never go “full-time” like some of my competitors. About a month ago I started to notice some strange patterns I could see in my “competitors” who were getting pushed by the algo so insanely hard. Such as their watch time’s in their videos being 100% or greater with 250,000+ views, their Spotify plays coming from certain playlists and all songs getting within a few hundred plays of each other from those playlists, and certain things like that. Stuff that looked artificially boosted. Looking in to their comments and find many generic and on almost brand new account with absolutely no activity displayed in their stuff.

So I began my own research and ended up here. I’ve spent quite a bit of time dwelling in the market place and testing out sellers. I try to contact them to be like “I know what I want, this is it, what do we have to do to make this happen”. And I get get a poorly worded reply back with a smiley face thrown in that is so unrelated to what I’m asking or only half getting the point. Is it just how the sellers are? Is this why the majority of this place seems to be people wanting to do it by theirselves with their own bots and etc? Or am I just not looking in at the right SMM sellers?

Doesn’t matter to me. I have money, time, and know EXACTLY what I want. Where do I need to go?
 
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wyld said:
I try to contact them to be like “I know what I want, this is it, what do we have to do to make this happen”. And I get get a poorly worded reply back with a smiley face thrown in that is so unrelated to what I’m asking or only half getting the point.
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Considering that they get numerous messages from prospective buyers, I’m guessing you got a response along the lines of “please sign up to the panel and message me for test credits. If you need any help, send in support ticket”. That’s to be expected.

If you know exactly what you want, you’d be better off opening a thread in the Hire a Freelancer section.
wyld said:
Is it just how the sellers are? Is this why the majority of this place seems to be people wanting to do it by theirselves with their own bots and etc? Or am I just not looking in at the right SMM sellers?
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Those sellers offer one service and that’s access to their panel + customer support. You can’t expect them to help you out with custom projects or insights into how you can boost your youtube career.
 
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RushingWind said:
Considering that they get numerous messages from prospective buyers, I’m guessing you got a response along the lines of “please sign up to the panel and message me for test credits. If you need any help, send in support ticket”. That’s to be expected.

If you know exactly what you want, you’d be better off opening a thread in the https://www.blackhatworld.com/forums/hire-a-freelancer.76/ section.

Those sellers offer one service and that’s access to their panel + customer support. You can’t expect them to help you out with custom projects or insights into how you can boost your youtube career.
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Hey I appreciate the feedback greatly!
So I have placed orders with these places already to test their services seeing if their YouTube watch time / retention views really stick and stuff (around $50 or so each place)

To be clear I have absolutely 0 questions or don’t want any help from them at all regarding insights. I’m literally asking “hey, I want all of these services here that you offer together in a package and I noticed this service when ordering did not perform as described, can you guarantee it will work?” I know exactly what I want and I’m willing to pay “custom” order prices. I’ve tried about 4 SMMs already with testing out things on burner videos on burner channels to verify the service, then reached out through every contact hole I could.
This last SMM I ordered from I got high-retention views guaranteed on a <10 minute video to be 2-6 minutes. The retention was 1:20 seconds on a 5 minute video. When I contacted them about this I got a smiley face saying the “marketing” team would be made aware of this problem and would fix it in 24 hours.

I guess what I’m getting at is I’m wanting to find a high quality SMM that is willing to work directly with a higher paying client and really deliver what they promise. For example, give me 80%+ retention time guaranteed on views and I’ll pay you 5x your high-retention already “guaranteed” prices. I just can’t find that after a month. Almost every SMM has underdelivered on their “product guarantees” and like you said, their only contact is a customer support that doesn’t understand my questions / request for services.
 
wyld said:
Hey I appreciate the feedback greatly!
So I have placed orders with these places already to test their services seeing if their YouTube watch time / retention views really stick and stuff (around $50 or so each place)

To be clear I have absolutely 0 questions or don’t want any help from them at all regarding insights. I’m literally asking “hey, I want all of these services here that you offer together in a package and I noticed this service when ordering did not perform as described, can you guarantee it will work?” I know exactly what I want and I’m willing to pay “custom” order prices. I’ve tried about 4 SMMs already with testing out things on burner videos on burner channels to verify the service, then reached out through every contact hole I could.
This last SMM I ordered from I got high-retention views guaranteed on a <10 minute video to be 2-6 minutes. The retention was 1:20 seconds on a 5 minute video. When I contacted them about this I got a smiley face saying the “marketing” team would be made aware of this problem and would fix it in 24 hours.

I guess what I’m getting at is I’m wanting to find a high quality SMM that is willing to work directly with a higher paying client and really deliver what they promise. For example, give me 80%+ retention time guaranteed on views and I’ll pay you 5x your high-retention already “guaranteed” prices. I just can’t find that after a month. Almost every SMM has underdelivered on their “product guarantees” and like you said, their only contact is a customer support that doesn’t understand my questions / request for services.
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To be candid, most panels are run by resellers who have absolutely no knowledge of the industry. Nlosmm by @SpawneR is a service I have used for my own channel and have seen positive results from. They’ve got a sales thread in the marketplace too. Check it out.
 
Im having difficulties finding panels with high retention viewes too. Its annoying and missleading when people dont have what they say they have. Let me know if you find anything.
 
RushingWind said:
To be candid, most panels are run by resellers who have absolutely no knowledge of the industry. Nlosmm by @SpawneR is a service I have used for my own channel and have seen positive results from. They’ve got a sales thread in the marketplace too. Check it out.
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Awesome! This is what I was looking for. I will give them a shot for sure. Do you have any idea how to find out if these market place sellers here do their own or are resellers? I’m not even looking for giant like 1,000,000 view orders and stuff. My market is VERY VERY niche and I just want to get to the top of my search results and game that algorithm and fall in people’s recommended in the niche area.
 
ziko12345 said:
Im having difficulties finding panels with high retention viewes too. Its annoying and missleading when people dont have what they say they have. Let me know if you find anything.
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Will do and same to you! It’s been a month long journey so far and I’m not giving up any time soon.
 
wyld said:
Do you have any idea how to find out if these market place sellers here do their own or are resellers?
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I don’t, sorry. If you do find out, let us know too so we can weed them from the marketplace lol
 
ziko12345 said:
Im having difficulties finding panels with high retention viewes too. Its annoying and missleading when people dont have what they say they have. Let me know if you find anything.
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find some channels in your niche and pay for end screens or community posts.
that will work better than any high retention smm views and let your channel blow up.
(hidden secret)

but make sure your content is
1. good
2. same niche as the channel shouting out, endscreening etc
 
YoutubeGodFather said:
find some channels in your niche and pay for end screens or community posts.
that will work better than any high retention smm views and let your channel blow up.
(hidden secret)

but make sure your content is
1. good
2. same niche as the channel shouting out, endscreening etc
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I didn't think about that before. Great idea, thanks!
 
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