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negative SEO de-ranking your competitors, reputation repair

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by matthewseo, Sep 15, 2012.

  1. matthewseo

    matthewseo Regular Member

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    I was reading this case study and thought that this method would work perfectly for de-ranking your competitors (not that I would do that) and for reputation repair to de-rank sites like rip-off report...

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...sending-scrapebox-blasts-your-money-site.html

    I would like to see if I am thinking straight and if anyone else agrees or has used blasting penguin unfriendly links to a site to get it de-ranked and can verify my theories.
     
  2. Impulse

    Impulse BANNED BANNED

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    Though some might disagree, blasting competitors with any types of links will generally not have lasting effects.

    Their rankings might dip for a period of time, but afterwards, the backlinks may potentially raise their rankings in the future.
     
  3. chhhad

    chhhad Junior Member

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    The best thing to do is build quality links and SEO on your own pages and make them out rank the bad ones and push them to page 2+.
     
  4. michaelshezzer

    michaelshezzer Junior Member

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    What about if you blasted bad neighbourhood links to your competitors sites like linking them to viagra, po*rn and gambling site. I guess this would kill your competitor as you really wouldnt need that many links for the G to go WTF!!!
     
  5. TheLinkGuy

    TheLinkGuy Power Member

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    this is risky
    especially trying to "derank" sites like ripoffreport by building backlinks. why? because they have a lot of authority and a lot of similar negative seo campaigns going on at once. at a certain point sites like ripoffreport have so much domain authority that building links actually helps.

    negative seo strategies work to a point, but you are risking it by pushing up rankings more so than hurting them when you build links to authority sites.

    personally i'd go the other way around and try and build links to quality listings so you can push your goods tuff to the top.
     
  6. the_demon

    the_demon Jr. Executive VIP

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    Blasting authority sites just causes them to shoot up in the SERPS.
     
  7. matthewseo

    matthewseo Regular Member

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    and an authority site is a site with more than 100 pages/articles?
     
  8. TheLinkGuy

    TheLinkGuy Power Member

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    no, an authority website is a site with a ton of preexisting backlinks, indexed pages, age of domain, and a variety of other factors.
     
  9. matthewseo

    matthewseo Regular Member

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    how do you know, objectively, if your own site is an authority site? then you can just blast it with anything (porn, biagra, scrapebox, etc), according to the recommendations on this post, and it only benefits it...
     
  10. erniedawg

    erniedawg Junior Member

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    Someone linked a shitload of bad backlinks to one of my sites in the beginning stages of it being built. I've been adding good links all along, eventually whoever sent all of these bad links, it will turn in my favor. Thank you Hijacker for the free links wherever you are! :)
     
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    Negative SEO does work; especially with newer sites, or sites that have had low link-building activity. Generally, massively over-optimising the prime keywords with very spammy and large blasts (X-rumer and SB) will do the trick...

    BUT: It's unethical, and quite possibly illegal (I'm sure we'll see court cases in the future) - and amounts to digital vandalism. It's a sad fact that Google have made this a possibility.
     
  12. matthewseo

    matthewseo Regular Member

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    why is it so hard for people on here to admit it works?
     
  13. kamchatka

    kamchatka Newbie

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    I feel like cock punching any dweeb who goes like "you must have great content and good backlinks and google will rank you and bad links will take you down". Yeah, right! I have at least one site that is more than a year old , has great content, got links from authority sites like mashable, thousands of visitors daily, got sitelinks in google serp.

    It was ranking number 1 for a year or so. I never built any links to it, whatever links it got was from people linking to it due to the great content and guides I provided. Last month google pushed me down to 2nd position and the top was occupied by a 4 months old site with crappy content written by someone who can not string together a sentence to save his life and a back link profile that consists entirely of profile links and social bookmarks.
     
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    DisguiseMarketing Junior Member

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    well i thought N-SEO was not allowed to be discussed here...and so many people are competing in some of the same niches that i'm sure they'd hate to see their sites fall because some lazy idiot blasted their site to high hell, wouldn't you?
     
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    One of my friends website was Negative SEO-d , he was in top 10 for some really competitive keywords. I checked his backlink profile..they made around 50k profile backlinks + blog comments on "spammy" sites. The domain was 2 years old and had PR2.

    So there is a way to Negative SEO sites, but it`s about luck too.
     
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    People are having positive results with negative SEO. Their pattern seems to suggest that a prolonged pattern of non-diversified and spammy backlinks is the way of accomplishing the task with minimal cost. In fact, many of the negative SEO algorithm induced drops in ranks are being reinforced later on with manual action penalties straight from Google. So besides being swatted down in the ranks a page or two, effective NSEO campaigns are causing manual reviews and long-lasting impacts.

    Google has stated that they have made it difficult for anyone to harm your ranks. This is largely due to Google's reliance on identifying and penalizing those that buy links. But even free link sources are working for NSEO when sustained efforts are put forth. I'm sure mixing in some blatant paid links would expedite the process for those that perform this work, but the people I know in this industry have been pretty quiet regarding using paid links to hurt competitors.

    Right, wrong or otherwise, Google created the negative SEO industry. And where there is an opportunity to profit there is an opportunity to serve the needs of those with the money to rank at any cost.
     
  17. ja1myn

    ja1myn Senior Member

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    Point of all these posts is that negative SEO is very well able to be performed successfully, but why waste the time bombarding a single competitor when you can build high quality links for your own site which will survive through the next few updates?
     
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    Negative SEO may work for several months but it will help your competitors in a long term.
     
  19. ja1myn

    ja1myn Senior Member

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    I don't really get why people say 100,000 spammy Scrapebox links with the same anchor text pointing to a competitor's site will "help them in the long term." That's just not logical.
     
  20. matthewseo

    matthewseo Regular Member

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    agreed, i believe that the formula looks at [your visitors + normal links over time / your new links spike + % of same link anchor text] ... if you have a site that is relatively quiet and you suddenly have 100,000 spam links it will never recover until you build 1million balanced anchor text links to diversify the link anchor text.