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Need Tips On Mailing..

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by howard_hughes, Jun 13, 2013.

  1. howard_hughes

    howard_hughes Elite Member

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    I recently started a membership site & started getting members (signups). The Emails get saved in my phpmyadmin.

    My question is - what would be the best way to mail them? Where exactly to start?

    I'm not very familiar with aweber etc, as when it comes to mailing, i dont have any know how. I'd appreciate any help!

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    Get a mailing bot or somesort then put all the emails inside that bot then start it up and start mass sending them mail that you want to send them.
     
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    trance92071 Senior Member

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  4. GiorgioB

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    You can try aweber or mail chimp, both are pretty decent email service providers. Mailchimp have some great resources, including subject line case studies, etc, this is where I would start if I were you: http://mailchimp.com/resources/
     
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  5. crazyflx

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    You've got a few options.


    • Host your own mailing solution or mailing script - There are plenty of scripts & software options available to do this...however I'm not a big fan of this. Depending on your server, you'll need to ask for a DKIM, rDNS, a clean IP and so on. Even then, imo, it's a PIA to manage (if you don't mind paying for a solution that is...this is obviously the least expensive route but will involve the most headache). I don't host my own mailing solutions, so I have no advice to give here (I've tried it, and discovered it was too much of a pain in comparison to paying for a solution that had high deliverability and zero headache). Not to mention when hosting your own solution that if you get even just a few complaints, you're going to hear from your server provider in a hurry...and they won't be nice.


    • Aweber - I wouldn't even consider this option given your position. Aweber only allows for you to import a mailing list and then mail to those on the list who have opted in again. In other words, they'll make every email address you import have to double opt-in again before you can mail to them. You'll be lucky to even get 30% of the people you import to double opt-in again (and that is probably being generous). While I actually prefer Aweber over MailChimp (next bullet point option) because of their additional setup options for autoresponders and forms and so on, when it comes to importing a list it's simply a no go. If your list isn't very large yet and you want to move to a paid autoresponder/mailing solution and don't mind basically wasting the list you've already collected, I'd start with Aweber first.


    • MailChimp - MailChimp will allow you to import your own mailing list and does not require that they double opt-in again before you can start mailing them. So if you start with Aweber and don't like them you can migrate to MailChimp far easier then you can migrate from MailChimp (or any solution for that matter) to Aweber. Both Aweber & Mailchimp, imo, have equal deliverability. I've had great results with both of them when it comes to inboxing. You'll need to do your due diligence on writing emails that don't hit spam filters however (things like words that trigger the filter and overall spam scores for instance).


    • If you have a very large list, things like aweber or mailchimp are going to be VERY expensive. For lists in the tens of thousands, I'd recommend something like SendGrid. They have SMTP & API access to send emails with. So you can go back to hosting your own mailing software provided it allows you to input your own SMTP details, at which point you'd enter your SendGrid SMTP details. So the mail is actually being sent via SendGrid's servers even though you're hosting the script yourself. SendGrid also has excellent deliverability.


    • GraphicMail - I've used these guys for lists upwards of 60k email addresses, although their deliverability is a little lacking. I only went with them because it was pretty inexpensive to send an unlimited number of emails to my list (just under $300 or something like that, if I recall correctly). I've had to submit support tickets to them many times to ask that they change my IP address though (that's the deliverability issue I mentioned). Also, when importing a list to these guys, you'll need to provide them with data about where you got your opt-ins and some data about each one (and they won't accept single opt-in lists...although you can upload a single opt-in list and tell them they are double opt-ins, but you'll need to forge some of the data that they request).

    Please keep in mind that I'm no heavy hitter when it comes to mailing. All of the above simply comes from my personal experience. There are plenty of members here with FAR MORE experience mailing than I do and I'm sure they have more input than what I've given and may even disagree with what I've said or provide better advice.

    Hope that helps.
     
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  6. howard_hughes

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    Haha, thanks bud, happy to help :)