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Need strategy Brand new keyword domain, 40 million searches, 280M results

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by darkmonk, Jul 29, 2011.

  1. darkmonk

    darkmonk Regular Member

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    I picked up a keyword domain in the hyper competitive weight loss niche :) The keyword gets over 30 million global monthly searches according to the Adwords tool, and has 280 million search results. But Adwords says its medium competition.

    The entire 1st page is comprised of sites like eHow, Wikihow, webmd, about.com. How hard is it to outrank such sites? I always felt eHow sucked but I have not had to try to outrank them before.

    So, its a brand spanking new domain name. I need a strategy to rank this domain. I also need to figure out what to sell on it / how to set it up. What makes the most bank in weight loss, clickbank? Lead gen to like jenny craig or something? I figure this is going to take awhile to get up in the SERPs. I don't mind, I am distracted with building up a few other sites right now anyway. But if I need to start dripping links etc. I was thinking I would throw something together on the domain this weekend and start the ball rolling. I can build awesome content, although in this niche I can't really do my own videos and whatnot because I'm a black hat computer geek and I can't impersonate a slim hot chick very well ;-) but I'm good with graphics / making it look good.

    Or, should I just try to sell the domain?

    One thought I had was to try and do a hybrid site. A wordpress authority site with unique content on the front end / home page, but with an attached auto-blog / auto-blog to separate categories and stick that on like a Syndication page or something. Make the site look really good and not draw attention to the auto-blog part. Would this work?

    If I could get to page 1, or even page 2 I have a feeling it would make money, I've never ventured into the weight loss keywords before though so I don't really know how they do or if certain things make bank and others don't produce anything.

    There is a similar site out there and they have no ads on their homepage or anywhere on their site that I could find and they are not a fee-based membership site. I can't figure out how the heck they are monetizing it, unless they are solely doing optin email marketing. Is there really that much money in the list in this area? Doesn't every spam filter on the planet just kill anything that comes through related to weight loss even if it is opt in?
     
  2. hoodkist

    hoodkist Regular Member

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    Pm me I just did this with an abbelt company It was pretty easy at number 1
     
  3. darkmonk

    darkmonk Regular Member

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    I don't understand. This ehow article only has 6 backlinks and 4 are no follow. Why is it the #2 search result.
     
  4. kappa84

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    Because of its damn authority.
     
  5. silvergun

    silvergun Newbie

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    30 million global, but what is the exact?
     
  6. DamageX

    DamageX Elite Member

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    Get a new keyword.
     
  7. svr231

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    Do some market research and find what competitors are doing !!
     
  8. Dan Da Man

    Dan Da Man Elite Member Premium Member

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    Broad does not matter as well as global. What is the exact on this?
     
  9. darkmonk

    darkmonk Regular Member

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    Aha! Arrgh. I thought I had hit the lottery and got all excited. The exact is only 3,600 searches a month for the url, 30.4 million for a portion of the url. Its a short and memorable name.
     
  10. jackb12

    jackb12 Newbie

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    Yes, exact is only what matters. start from small and grow big. general keywords are able to expand much more. in a big site
     
  11. darkmonk

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    Maybe this is a blessing in disguise then. I can attack this keyword and a few related ones and rank more easily, and grow it to compete with the keyword that is part of the domain name with 30M exact searches. The site that ranks #1 for that keyword with 30M exact searches has no obvious monetization or ads on their site, I can't figure out how they are making money so I can copy them.
     
  12. darkmonk

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    The keyword I am trying to go after is "diet". The site I am trying to figure out how they monetize it is diettv dot com.
     
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  14. DamageX

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    Couldn't have said it better myself. :D
     
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    They have monotized this through adsense and cj banner ads around the free content. Checkout the site and the ' diet videos ' section. You'll see them both wrapping across the top and sides of the video.

    No big deal.
     
  16. IamNRE

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    Pick another keyword bro!

    Go read my thread on keyword research.

    I would not waste my time with a 200Million competition keyword unless I had a aged domain (5+ years), and minimum $3K on SEO alone.

    And I would also know exactly what to offer my readers before I committed to such a big project.
     
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