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need some advise on delivering to hotmail inbox

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by davids355, Sep 26, 2014.

  1. davids355

    davids355 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I am trying to send a few emails out to people, I have SPF, DKIM etc set up. But I am having trouble sending to hotmail addresses - the emails are going into the junk folder and there is a warning that smartscreen has detected that the emails are spam.

    Just wondering if anyone has some pointers on what else I need to put in place to get into hotmail inbox?
     
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    davids355 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Just realised I didn't have RDNS set up for the mail-server's IP, maybe that is why?
    Just set that up now and going to test again in 24 hours.
     
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    Please post the success on that, I'm sure that I am not the only one that is interested.
     
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    Yes I definitely will.
    You were in my other thread as well, about mailchimp - well, I stupidly contacted them asking the question about cold emailing, and they said of course that it was against their terms (even though I don't believe it is against CANSPAM rules as I am only sending to generic company addresses).

    Anyway, I decided to recreate the email template that I had made, and send it via my own server, hence this post!

    I just have a server running WHM/Cpanel, I have set up an account specifically for this emailing project, set up SPF and DKIM which is quite easy through cpanel, and made a very simple PHP script that will loop through a list of email addresses from either a MYSQL database or in this case just an array (as I have <100 addresses).

    But as always, hotmail is a pain in the a$$! But will see tomorrow if RDNS solves the issue, and then Ill report back.
     
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    Interested in that too. Some are the key factors, the sender email is important, try it to change to admin@yourmainserver.com or leave it blank (it will seem as server2@yourserver.com), also dont include too much link, shortened link in body etc
     
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    Hotmail sucks ass. It seems to put everything in the junk folder, unless the receiver was expecting the email and tells it otherwise.

    I did have strange results, playing around with Hotmail a while back. It seems if you send more than one email to the same address, only the first email goes to junk, and the rest get inboxed just fine.

    I haven't done extensive research though, so it may have just been a once-off thing.
     
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    Yea, I have read hotmails best practices guide for webmasters and I think I'm following there requirements.

    at the moment, outbound address is david@domain.com - and that domain has my mail servers IP in its SPF record.

    Treeofl1, did you click "this isn't spam"?
    if you click that once, then future emails will go to your inbox, but not to other Hotmail users inboxes.

    at the moment I just have a 5 line email, no links, sending it to my own account for testing.

    i have also read about an unsubscribe header that hotmail requires now, going to research that tomorrow if RDNS doesn't work.
     
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    I didn't click anything lol. I just created a new hotmail account, and basically sent it a whole bunch of emails using different addresses.
     
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    ^ fair enough, just checking :)
    well, I'll post back tomorrow once RDNS updated.
     
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    RDNS still not updated :-/ Going to check again tomorrow morning.
     
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    You need to set up filter rules and then all emails sent regardless of the sender's email will land in the inbox.
     
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    He's trying to send mails, not receive them.
     
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    ^^Thanks mate, Ill try that.
    To be honest, this project has been put on hold at the moment anyway. Been too busy with other stuff.
    But my mailing setup and list is sitting there ready to go...
     
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    you should sure about spf and dikim "on" in sending server