Hi, Im very new and still wet behind the ears when it comes to black hat seo stuff. Im not bad at white hat but i dont have the budget to fight my competition as my industy is very competitive. So i thought i'd ask for some advice and guidance. Black hat .... where do i start? Im my world i want to push my sites higher up the SERPS .... So what black hat techniques should i use? I guess, if i want higher SERPS i need back links ... ? Whats the best way to generate back links? Or do i have it wrong? At the moment i have 2 ideas ... 1) Article marketing .... use thebestspinner to spin hundreds of times and post to lots and lots of article sites? generating backlinks to my sites. 2) Blog commenting .... use scapebox to autopost thousands of blog comments all containing backlinks to my sites? The problem i have is that i have read lots of success stories on BHF about both methods but i have also read negative comments about them? Are there better blackhat methods to get backlinks? Thanks inadvance! Oh, if any 'article marketing' or 'blog commenting' fancy having a chat with me and dont mind me picking there brains that would be great. I can chat on MSM or Yaho0 chat???