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Need Reviews: Zennoposter MP VS UBOT Studio (to sell the bots)

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by blackhat777, Mar 20, 2013.

  1. blackhat777

    blackhat777 Elite Member

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    Hi,

    I know a similar thread already exists here but it doesn't give me the information I'm looking at.

    I already have Zennoposter MP and I'm using it to automate a lot of things. Initially I bought it for personal use but now I'm looking at selling the bots. But it's really a pain in A** to sell a bot built using zennoposter. I almost have to install everything on client's machine because so many times zennobox will not install properly. I got some charge backs too because zennobox didn't install properly on client's machine.
    For personal use, performance wise I don't find any issue with zennoposter but when it comes to selling using zennobox, it sucks.

    I don't have experience with Ubot studio. So, anyone who is using Ubot Studio can please let me know the pros and cons of the same. Also, how difficult or easy it is to create bots in Ubot Studio as campared to Zenno?
    Also, if I have to buy Ubot studio, which one should I go for?

    Also, is it worth buying Ubot if I already have Zennoposter latest version and vice versa?

    It will be great if someone who is using both the tools can come here and help in reviewing their services in terms of selling the bot.

    Looking forward to hear from you guys!!

    Cheers..
     
  2. blackhat777

    blackhat777 Elite Member

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    Bump!!
     
  3. futurestunner

    futurestunner BANNED BANNED

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    wrong section mate!
     
  4. blackhat777

    blackhat777 Elite Member

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    Requesting mods to move the thread to correct section..
     
  5. blackhat777

    blackhat777 Elite Member

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    Still looking for some feedback from someone who already owns both the bots..
     
  6. Scritty

    Scritty Elite Member Premium Member

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    While you can sell the scripts thorugh Zenno - they take a cut and it's a limited market (you can only sell to other Zenno users)
    Zenno has a 10% power and utility edge on Ubot (but both are improving all the time)
    Zenno is a little cheaper
    Zenno used to have the edge on coding and speed (it still has a small edge)

    So it has a lot going for it

    But if youe MAIN AIM is to sell, then UBot bots can be independently compiled and thus be sold to anyone
    Zenno scripts sold only to other Zenno users - and then if you do it throught the Zenno marketplace it costs

    There was a blog here on BHW about 8 months ago where the Zenno guys hinted that they would soon offer independantly compiled bot ability. Not heard anything since. If they ever did - that would be the killer. Zenno for sure. Without it. Well it's like having Lionel Messi on your soccer team playing one on one against a local Div 3 player - but then finding Messi was in a wheelchair.
    Should be a walkover based on the underlying ability - but without full export Zenno is hobbled badly for many IM developers
     
  7. imperial444

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    I felt in love with Zenno Lab 2 years ago. Never cheated on it since back then.
     
  8. rostonix

    rostonix Senior Member

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    It's possible now to sell Zennoposter's bots to users who dont have Zenno license via Zennobox: http://wiki.zennolab.com/doku.php?id=en:zennobox
    We just started this path and we have great plans for it's further developement :)

    @ imperial444 oh that's so nice ;)

    Anton
     
  9. naweed

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    Yes but the ability to compile bot to exe like ubot will be really nice.
     
  10. mynameonly

    mynameonly Newbie

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    Not Zenno. Not Zenno at all.

    They recently changed the demo so that it won't load projects created by users.

    That's not what I call user friendly. That's not what I call support.

    This shows they are just not reliable. Above everything else, of course.

    They want to keep a tight control over who uses the program, what projects it runs, what proxies are met - everything.

    Big brother.
     
  11. lurnme

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    I have owed both for quite some time. If you want to sell bots go with ubot, Zenno is too greedy, they claim it's to protect you and this excuse and that excuse. They just want to profit off your work even though they already profited off theirs by you purchasing it. It's greed pure and simple, like they deserve royalties on your ideas, lol. Quick little apps are automatically out of the question since it's a base rate of $10 for them off the top. You already have to pay for updates that is plenty to keep the coders going.

    Maybe their setup has a place but not in my system. I personally bought it to make my life easier, like if I need to run a list of accts, log them in, click ok, and never need to use the bot again. I can't just make a quick 5 line exe without jumping through hoops. Have to run their little bots through their program blah blah blah. It's easier for me to just code it myself at that point. I stick with ubot for those types of projects. If I need to make a 2 sec app to automate a website I don't have to go ask for permission when I already paid for it. I can compile exes for one of my many pcs and vps's without all the headaches. Also the proxy setup is overly controlling as well.

    edit:dang you made me reply to the old post with you lol.
     
  12. nuaru

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    From the first version of ZennoPoster ( and we develop it more than five years already ), we tried to make our best to make it comfortable for users to test software before they decide to buy it.
    Our prospective clients who start with demo know exactly what they are buying. We've never asked for money before letting our potential clients to test software. We've never forced any user to perform any payments, like a lot of developers who offer 30 days moneyback guarantee do. We let our clients test all functions of software before they make a decision about purchase AND we still offer 30 days for moneyback.
    Some time ago, we decided to make process of getting the demo even more simpler, everyone can get latest demo version without even entering their email address.
    But some unscrupulous people try to take advantage of this and use dozens of demo to work with them on an industrial scale .
    Of course we do not allow that kind of actions, we simplified the registration process for ordinary people, not freeloaders .
    Our paid clients, they are no worse than you, mynameonly, if you want to use our software for commercial purposes and to get a competitive advantage, you need to buy the program as well as all our other clients .
    Now we have added some new features to our protection system that should concern only freeloaders, and they will never affect regular users who download our demo to test it and decide either they need it or not.
    If you are a regular user, who was interested in our program and you have any problems, do not hesitate to contact our support team (support@zennolab.com) , and we will always help you.
     
  13. rostonix

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    @lurnme, we'll have serious enhancements to ZennoBox, but later, when we'll finish major upgrade of browser engine. :)
    We've collected a lot of feedback about what users expect from it :)

    Anton

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    Free 14 day ZennoPoster demo download || Buy ZennoPoster PRO via this link and get Outlook & Twitter account creators for free!
     
  14. *zap*

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    All this software that calls home be it Zennoposter or UBOT is in fact software rental you never really own it, (at this point in time I have over £1000 worth of software/scripts that no longer work as the host servers are blocking it or offline) So you also need to think about that before you start selling bots.

    Zenno I did the trial install and did not like it, ubot you need the dev version, but I would not use version 5 just yet, if you buy it ask for version 4 download link from the start, and don’t try and work with large .txt or csv files use a database. Also ubot is browser driven so if visit a site that would crash IE or FF then more than lightly it will crash the ubots Awesomium browser. (i.e.don’t work well on cheap sites like pliggs, guest books and so on that are loaded with boat load of flash/java redirects popups and so on) Support is poor in my experience I no longer use it, some users seem unable to multi thread with it, I think everyone that is multi-threading has to use a plugin, to keep track of the treads. Is it easy to use? Some say it is, some have problems, I would say it’s has a learning curve like all software.

    The only other problem is the loading speed, you click it to open it and wait, then it calls home you wait, then it loads the plugins you wait, then you tell it what file to open and wait. You may say oh come on this is just once when you open it, but it's not, as you run into 600 + lines of code you need to do this more often, as the interface slows down more and more until you can’t work
     
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