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Need large pool of IP's to be switched per session (not per time or connection)

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by punkinhead, Mar 8, 2016.

  1. punkinhead

    punkinhead Regular Member

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    I am currently paying for hundreds of elite private proxies, and need to scale up quickly... but it's not cost effective and not really what I want. I only want each for a short time, and then never want to use it again... but I need to appear as regular user of site, so cannot have IP switching every time I navigate to new page or randomly in the middle of session. As far as I can tell, this means I can't use per request switching or timed switching. I need, basically, a proxy pool where I can tell it somehow that I want a new one, then stick with that one until I tell it to switch again.

    I can't be the only one that needs this. Or, is there some other way to achieve? Getting VERY expensive and quite wasteful cycling through so many private proxies only to have them sitting there unused most of the month... plus I will eventually use up what my current provider can provide and get lots of repeat IP's.
     
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    Writing you a PM now. :)

    Regards
     
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    At one point I calculated that I was paying something like 1000+ per month in proxies. It was absolutely absurd. Since then I cut it way way back and seems to be alright now. Plus now I have less proxy companies yelling at me.
     
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    a bot that could load proxy for each session would good for that like some of the bots i've seen here from traffic exchange bot
     
  5. punkinhead

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    Cut it way back by doing what? This doesn't actually say anything.
     
  6. punkinhead

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    Yeah, could be helpful, but loading from where is the real key. If proxies are slow, or from wrong country, site stops working. This is main reason I've been paying for private proxies. Are you talking about subscription to service that combs through all public proxies? I have tons of timeout errors even with the fastest private proxies I could find. I doubt the public ones would work. That's why I'm looking for ones that are private until you return them to pool... so only one, or at least max 3 or so people can use at a time, and not included on public lists.

    Really, I THINK (open to other ideas) I need something like these backconnect pools, but where I have option to switch per session rather than timer or per request.
     
  7. punkinhead

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    I understand there are various types of proxies, etc. More interested here in any type of service that lets me switch among large pool at my request or new browser open, or any other indication that it is session specific. I've talked to a couple of the big proxy pools and they tell me there is nothing they can do on their timer system to stop it from switching IP's in the middle of session which would be big red flag that not a real user. Similarly, if I understand correctly, switching per request would mean I keep getting new IP every time I navigate to a new page on site, or anything else, right?
     
  8. punkinhead

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    Also becoming quite upset at the number of times I've paid good money for a supposedly huge pool of IP's only to have the same ones keep coming up on refresh. System should, if anything, be geared to PREVENT this from happening as much as possible.
     
  9. punkinhead

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    This appears on the surface to be what I've been looking for (except it's more than 3x what I'm paying per IP):

    http://oxylabs.io/advanced-ip-rotator

    Especially the bit about session control.

    It's after hours, so can't talk to them. Anyone used them or done anything similar?
     
  10. punkinhead

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    I think if I were using imacros enterprise, I could fairly easily work out the session switching part by itself. I've seen a few solutions that just grab the next one on the list upon browser startup as well. The issue is more with the types of services available.

    If you only need each proxy for a single session of a few minutes to a few hours, then one of two things inevitably happens:

    1) Monthly rental: The proxies sit there unused for 90+% of the time. You're paying for something you're not using.

    2) Timer or per request switching pools: Switches happen mid session and destroy the illusion of your accounts being normal users.

    Only solutions I've seen have been like luminati or oxylabs.io which are 3-5x the price I'm paying per IP. Wonder, too, about these as they seem to be like proprietary tor network. So... isn't that using my connection to route others through? That's gotta impact performace, right?

    Call me crazy, but what's stopping a vendor from offering IPs that can be swapped into the system any time (not just monthly). After all, if they're in my inventory doing nothing, they're also doing nothing for the vendor. Really, even being able to turn them in WEEKLY would make them 4x as valuable in my case.