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need help turning my dating leads into money

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by jake718, May 13, 2012.

  1. jake718

    jake718 Newbie

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    hi,

    as i understand its against the rules to speak of certain sites so i'll just explain what i have in general terms

    i have a custom system (which i wrote myself) that allows me to place dating ads and pull bunch of replies

    replies are sent by the site to my gmail accounts and are then forwarded to my server

    my auto-mailing system can respond within minutes but i have it set to a delay of 30 minutes

    from last 306 posts i received 8040 replies (26.27 average per post), mailed 5345 unique emails, 936 unique clicks as counted by my sponsor, had 59 ($3 each - average value from experience) free signups and 2 ($85 each) paid sales to a paid dating site

    going by free signups, 59 free * $3 = $177 total value of traffic / 306 posts = 57 cents per post or $177 / 8040 replies = $0.022 cents per reply

    so 0.022 cents per reply seems way too low (i check my gmail accounts and they are full of emails, numbers seem to be accurate)

    now, my auto-mailing setup is pretty crude

    basically im mailing via gmail web interface (their html mode), my scripts use a new ip and login to a new gmail account for each outgoing mail

    when original email comes from a *site*, my system will reply back with the following message (30 minute delay):

    Hey there, *site* sure fills up your email box haha, im just
    reading through some replies. Whats up???

    On Friday, May 11th 2012, site-user wrote:

    > Hey Im visiting long island Levittown for this weekend and staying for a week to meet some friends. However I will have some open time in my schedule and wouldnt mind exploring the city with someone n...

    thats the first reply they see, no links and no images

    once they reply to above message, i send them the following message (10 minute delay):

    Oh my god, *site* is creeping me out, im making a profile on a
    real site *short-url* so go there if you like
    my pics

    On Saturday, May 12th 2012, site-user wrote:

    > Hey Im Justin. Just moved out to NY so looking for friends that might lead to who knows? Im an animator camera guy on an ABC show and freelance all over Heres a pic to give you an idea

    [attach pics (from same set that was used for post on *site*)]

    that *short-url* in second outgoing email goes straight to my sponsor, no landing page in between

    so thats about all, i feel that these emails should be worth much more than 2 cents im getting now, if only my sales pitch is improved (considerably)

    bottom line is that i need someone with experience to help me come up with a better sales pitch, if you are interested we can think of a fee or a profit sharing deal

    thanks for reading
     
  2. 4IMaffair

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    PM me your skype
     
  3. scubasteeve

    scubasteeve Newbie

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    you can always sell your leads .. fresh and exclusive dating leads are always in high demand
     
  4. trapmarketing

    trapmarketing Registered Member

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    Well, why not try to really milk these leads all the way, what you got going on probably needs to be twisted a little bit more, since I feel it's being done all over the place, why not try sending them another email to another dating offer(match.com, etc) or maybe Dating ebooks or even getting in shape affiliate programs(most of these guys have no confidence that's why there doing online dating and are probably overweight).
     
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    Pm me your skype as well please. I have experience in this area.
     
  6. GiftGuru

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    Needalead BANNED BANNED

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    I get a lot of leads that I can convert. However the sales pitch you have. Maybe you can amp it up. Make it raunchy. Or it can like .. an A/B testing. I used to get a LOT of leads for a few clients who did conversions on w4m. I'm going to think on this. Maybe send you some ideas to help with the conversions.
     
  8. jake718

    jake718 Newbie

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    that sounds interesting, is there maybe a service where i could forward live incoming replies and get paid per email .. or even per free/sale but let them do mailing
     
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  9. jake718

    jake718 Newbie

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    message sent
     
  10. jake718

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    seems i have no creative juices flowing at all, just someone lets me copy their pitch
     
  11. jake718

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    will try this out, looks like it could really sell, also i do like clickbank -- used to push them hard a few years ago, thanks!
     
  12. jake718

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    i understand the general idea but whenever i try to write it out so it sounds believable in my chain of replies, i keep running into a wall, just sounds so fake.. maybe im over thinking it
     
  13. cl4life

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    Your over thinking it and the email submits, in my case anyhow, rarely do any better then about $0.50 per click to the offer. What you need is a better offer. You need an offer that pays you for free trial signups for really cheap trial signups. Chances are your gonna get a bunch of JV offers from people, be careful who you choose or you may end up just getting ripped off.

    But this thread will be deleted soon unfortunately as it breaks 2 rules, one it's the evil "ewhoring" which the wh people here hate and 2 an unwritten rule of not posting anything that makes real money outside the vip section.
     
  14. scubasteeve

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    I know people who will pay for leads. the last time i checked "exclusive" w4m leads were being purchased on average about $70 per 1K leads. Lots of people who purchase these leads don't want to bother with the hassle of posting their own ads and having them flagged or ghosted. If you can guarantee someone fresh and exclusive leads, they will gladly pay you for them.
     
  15. outres

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    I am a specialist of dating sites social engineering.

    Perhaps we two should talk...


     
  16. GiftGuru

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    Let me know how it works for you....I've been with him for a year. I'm loving the 55% monthlies out of his 30/30 plan. He gets these guys to pay $30/month....of which I get 55%
     
  17. buttulgly

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    Another E-Whore? Doing some real fucking marketing for a change. This is not black hat, it is just being an asshole on the net for a few dollars.

    Now before you flame me, might I remind you of -

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    This is a blackhat forum, not a lets fuck over some poor bastard forum.
     
  18. dgaunn4114

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    PM Sent.
     
  19. matthewseo

    matthewseo Regular Member

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    I'll pay you more than that to get signups for my site. PM me.