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Need help setting up rotating email servers, or something of the likes.

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by BlackBeard2016, Dec 5, 2016.

  1. BlackBeard2016

    BlackBeard2016 Newbie

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    Oi Scallywags- I would like to explore some options for doing bulk mail outs. I have fairly small lists, but will no doubt get flagged fro time to time. What are my best options here?

    I have searched this forum, and there is so much noise on the subject! Any salty sailors that could pitch in some info would be greatly appreciated!!!

    Don't wants me lovely domain to end up in Davey jones's locker!

    Arrr
     
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    There's a lot of fine tuning when it comes to bulk mail. I purchase multiple domains and verify my lists before sending. You can verify small lists for cheap using Email List Verify or you can purchase a desktop email verify software.

    I've been banned from multiple ESPs and a few VPS providers. The key here is to clean lists well and fly under the radar.

    If you have small lists you might look into using a service like Send In Blue. You can operate for a little while but they will ban eventually. You can prolong your life with ESPs by keeping your lists free of spam traps and bounces.
     
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    Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer this. Do you think a simple VPS is enough to get started? What do you know about renting smtp for outgoing mail? And how many emails per day is a safe place to start with a company such as Send in blue?
     
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    I just started with a VPS provider called Ahead Host. I'm using Atomic Email Studio with Amazon SES (two regions). I got banned from Solid SEO VPS for running email verification and sending around 6k emails. So far Ahead Host hasn't said anything but I've only sent around 2500 emails. I'm gearing up for a 100k blast but I screwed up my list so I have to wait.

    With Send in Blue you can send up to 12k emails per month free. My first campaign with SiB was around 8k emails. Then I bought the upgrade to send more. I think you'd be fine runnning the full 12k in one go since you're on a shared IP and it's already warmed up. If you have dedi IP you need to warm it up.

    Don't forget to verify your domains using DKIM and SPF records.

    I've used Mailjet, SendPulse, Elastic Email, Amazon SES, Sendgrid, and SiB for SMTP. Amazon and SiB are the best in my opinion. MailJet seemed to have very poor delivery but maybe it was my fault in some way.

    Another option is Email Octopus. $35 for 100k contacts stored. You connect it to Amazon SES. It's easy and cheap. I did a free trial with them but I wanted my own setup so I bought Atomic Email Studio. I send around 2,000 emails through their service via Amazon SES and it went well.

    How large is your list?
     
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    BlackBeard2016 Newbie

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    Are you able to chat on Skype, Arc?
    I'd love to disclose my whole operation to you in private. I am not able to send PMs yet!
     
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    How do you warm up a an IP? What does this mean and why is it important? Thanks!
     
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    Warm it up by slowly increase the amount of emails you send. Don't just send 100k emails from a fresh IP or you'll get flagged.

    Unless you are buying a dedicated IP you will not have to worry about warming up. However, I recommend starting small with whichever email or smtp provider you use so you can figure out any quirks.
     
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    one of my friend buy 200 gmail, then use gmail smtp to send 50 email per account per hour, he can send 120k a day
     
  9. ija61

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    As you said this subject is very discussed but this happen because there is a thin line between success and failure.

    There are two approach when talking about mail blasts: 1 ) you can do it yourself 2) you can use a provider

    For the first options the problems will appear right away due to blacklisted IP's / domains for the second option the problem is with the sources of your email list and here I'm talking about the fact that many trusted providers that will ban you if they get many complains or op-out and this will happen if you use harvested list.

    Another factor that you must consider is the inbox rate witch is the most important factor when talking about sending emails.

    If you have a small list, like 10.000 - 1000.000 and is a legit one then I will suggest to use a external service... so you will not wary about SPF/ DKIM / RDNS / warm up domain - ip / build authority and things like that.

    P.S. Because I saw the verifying email topic I need to say that there is no wonder tool that can verify an email 100%, the only way is to send and email to that address and see the mx response.
     
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    Dedicated or not you must build the authority of the IP / domain. By the way, what do you mean by dedicated IP? can you use shared IP for em blasts and not get banned?
     
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    If you are using a shared ip (an ip that is used by multiple users) provided by an email service provider, it is already warmed up. If you are using a dedicated ip (one that only you are using), you have to warm by it up by slowly increasing the amount of email sent.

    Your domain can end up on a blacklist using a shared or dedicated IP. I rotate domains and use redirects to protect my main website's domain from being on a blacklist.

    Using a shared IP is risky because if you have one spammer they can effect the deliverability of everyone's mail. Using a dedicated IP is risky if you are sending cold email because you can't blend in with the crowd, so to speak.

    SpamAssassin has a list called Day Old Bread. It is a list of domains purchased within the last five days. If your domain is on this list, you will have problems making the inbox.