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Need Help! Building Site on Expired Indexed or Not Indexed Domain!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by mrdonman, Oct 7, 2014.

  1. mrdonman

    mrdonman Regular Member

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    I was actually trying to build a site on an expired domain to bypass the "new website sandbox rule" or "30 Day Waiting Period". I just want to bypass the whole new domain waiting period. The problem that I stumbled upon was that the expired domains that I have found are clean profile and had legit websites on archive.org. But if the site had history but it is not indexed won't google treat it as a new site and put it in the same category as a new site? Also how about expired domains with no website history on archive.org. Did any forum members test this and found different results? I actually found this post at No Hat Digital in which they are doing the same experiment but have not released their result yet. Here is the link to the post http://www.nohatdigital.com/experiments/indexed-vs-un-indexed-expired-domains/
    If anyone has any insights into this, I would appreciate your input on this topic and experiment.
     
  2. LityUM

    LityUM Junior Member

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    I have run several test like that, and there are websites that rank immediately and they work, but many not.

    You should check for the link profile with tools like OpensiteExplorer, AHrefs etc... and analyze it deeply.

    Then you should check for the Archive.org, see if there are some redirections to spammy websites, old spam or stuff that are not so clear.

    I mean, expired domain you find, if you are going to buy an expired domain from someone also marketplace, be careful, double check for everything, especially try to identify fake PR.

    If you are just going to find them out by yourself at the end they will cost few dollars so my advice is to buy a few and rebuild small part of them and see if they will rank again.

    Ususally they take time too, so maybe you should wait for the sandbox.
     
  3. allaboutdomains

    allaboutdomains Junior Member

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    If the domain expired recently, you will be more likely to avoid the sandbox than if it is one that expired years ago. Of course, make sure to check it in ahrefs, majestic, archive and screenshots as each has different information.
     
  4. mrdonman

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    Thanks for your inputs. But I was mostly interested in building sites on "indexed expired domains and not indexed domains" and ranking them. I want to bypass the unconfirmed "30 Day Waiting Period" for new websites. If the domain is aged but is not indexed and I check the backlink portfolio to be clean how effective will it be in bypassing the new website waiting period rule? If it is not indexed will it be treated as a new domain and put into the same category as a new website?
     
  5. chiz911

    chiz911 Newbie

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    you should not buy sites that are not indexed
     
  6. mrdonman

    mrdonman Regular Member

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    What I want to know is that will it bypass the "30 Day new site waiting period" ?
     
  7. laur.laurix

    laur.laurix Regular Member

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    Shut up Meg!
    Now
    If the "30 days wait" Myth is correct, domain age will trigger this filter. I never encountered this issue with expired and deleted domain on my network. The real issue here is buying expired domains that have no indexed page. It`s like russian roulette, sometimes u will get ur head blown of and sometimes u are not. No pain no gain.
     
  8. SEO Power

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    I don't think expired domains can help you bypass the waiting period, indexed or not. I've bought two expired domains at different times of the year and used them but they produced no results.

    I redirected the first domain to one of my niche sites but there was no change in my rankings.

    I moved another niche site to the second domain and 301ed it's previous domain to the expired one but the expired domain appeared on the same page where the redirected domain previously ranked - page 13!

    This is just my experience and it's not conclusive. Feel free to do your own test or wait for the results of the NoHatDigital experiment.
     
  9. Jouster

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    SEO is all about testing, so the only way to know for sure is to get in there and give it a shot, however the best way to beat the "30 day waiting rule" is too just wait 30 days..no big deal if you're not churning n burning...
     
  10. domainingin

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    Hi!
    Most of old expired domains are not indexed as they expired years ago, therefore google has nothing to index, this most definitely does not mean the domain is not healthy. If you do all the checks to ensure a domain has good metrics, links and history irrespective of whether it's indexed it will still pass great juice once reestablished.

    95% of my domains once register get indexed by google within a matter of days based on the already existing links, and that's just a holding page? you can further test health by pointing to a Web 2.0 to test or test rank for a sequence of numbers etc if not confident.
    Hope this helps.
    Cheers
    Dan