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Need Advice From People Who Are Diagnosed BIPOLAR

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  1. hateandbreak

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    So i'm 100% sure I'm Bipolar of some sort along with Anxiety and anger issue plus contestant Focus issues (ADHD). I'm simply here to ask if anyone has been diagnosed for it and if so, what type of medications do you use to keep it down? I just can't seem to get myself to get on
    medication as I'm worried I'll lose my creativity from being Manic or from a depressive state it seems I get the best ideas
    before, after or during these states.

    I know my options so don't say "meditate and drink ginseng" or don't claim it's not a real thing because I believe it really is. Would
    love to hear from those who experience the mood swings and manic + depressive states that the normal folks can go by without.

    Your thoughts on how the medication affected you will be greatly appreciated as I think it's time for me to get on something to
    be able to stay sane and not trip over small situations. I've also been abusing Alcohol to calm myself down when things irritate the FUCK out of me so I really need to set my mind right and stop fucking up my liver.

    Thanks
     
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    1. Go on Amazon.
    2. Search "5HTP."
    3. Order some.
    4. Thank me later.
     
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    I've taken some already and the first time I had a good feeling of calm and relaxation however, it doesn't give me that same effect anymore. I want something more powerful that I can pretty much only get via a doc. Thanks for the tip though

    Would love to hear more from you guys
     
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    Hmm. What is your diet like? I've been in to body building for a while now and can teach you a lot. Also do you exercise on a daily basis? Also what is your sleep pattern like?

    Hey a little update I'm so tired lol. Feel free to PM me but you have to understand this before you can make any progress in curing your problem. Anxiety and depression are symptoms. The biggest misconception about anxiety and depression is that you need to take pills, this is only treating the symptoms and not the root cause. Sure you can pop a few Xanax to have a little edge on a night out, but these types of "medications" are only short term solutions.

    If you are looking to actually cure yourself, you need to be treating the root cause(s) of your anxiety and depression.

    The first thing you should address is your diet. You need a certain amount of healthy fats, good carbohydrates, and lean proteins in order for your brain to be properly nourished and for it to function correctly. Also lots of fruits and vegetables. A multivitamin wouldn't hurt either. What you should be eating every day is: eggs, peanut butter, oatmeal, rice, potatoes, broccoli (all vegetables are good), fruits and really any other quality proteins. Basically cut out all of your junk food as much as you can. Those are just a few examples but there are definitely a lot more choices when it comes down to eating right.

    American food is also filled with toxins that affect your brain function, amongst other things. One of the best and cheapest de toxifiers out their is apple cider vinegar. It essentially binds itself to the toxins in your body and processes them out through your liver. For example I used to have some acne on my lower back. Once I started drinking this vinegar my acne vanished completely, but you have to be drinking it daily. It tastes disgusting but it can really help your body out.

    Another thing is to stay hydrated. Drink a lot of water. Most people fill up on garbage like soda and energy drinks. These things are terrible for you, and did you know that high fructose corn syrup (the sweetener the companies use all in of your sodas and junk food) is actually as addictive as cocaine? Studies from reputable Universities have proven it over and over again. If you are trying to cut out junk food, you may actually go through a small withdrawal period similar to a drug withdrawal. I'm not kidding either, sugar and high fructose corn syrup possess physically addictive properties.

    A good tip is to do your shopping on the borders of the grocery store. Everything in the middle is crap.

    Another great food to help with depression is yogurt, but only the kind with probiotics. These aid with your digestive system and like my previous example, numerous respected Universities have proven a daily intake of probiotics to be as effective in treating depression as Prozac. Amazing huh?

    To sum it all up I am a strong believer in Eastern medicine. Western medicine focuses mainly on profits. We promote crap to our people, let them get sick and then turn around and make money off of treating and not curing them. Granted, Western medicine has come a very long way. But have you ever heard an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure? I believe everyone who has some self-worth in themselves should be very vested in to their health and well-being.

    I like to think of the human body as like a computer. A virus on the computer can be compared to junk food that people eat. All of the teenagers out their think they are indestructible constantly scarfing down loads of garbage food but no matter how good your genetics are, bad habits always catch up with you.

    The last basic thing here is exercise. You must be exercising for at least 30 minutes a day to see any improvement in your mental well-being. Studies have shown that even mild exercise has been more effective in treating depression than SSRI meds like Prozac.

    This is also only scratching the surface. Much like IM, if you have the balls and take action, in at least a month you will find yourself wondering why you never invested in proper health before.

    Now, I am posting this before you responded so excuse me if you already do lead a healthy lifestyle. I am writing this based on the assumption of me being like, sort of a personal trainer for you. I hope you take what I wrote to heart regardless and yeah :).
     
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  5. hateandbreak

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    Thank you.

    My diet lately has been bad. Fast food and etc. I do workout occasionally and I plan on going back into a 4-6 times a week routine starting Monday. Sleeping Schedule lately has also been inside out and not good whatsoever. Finally fixed my hours as of today so will get a good nights rest.

    I repeat this all the time and end up falling off track due to the mood swings they convince me to just STOP, even when I know it's deadly important.

    Any recommendations?
     
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    If this is any help, I have some anxiety and depression issues myself. I'm young but I still have it, I know how much of a bitch it can be. What I used to just do is smoke weed everyday, it got to a point where I would be smoking at least 4 or 5 grams per day to cope with my stress. Anxiety and depression in my opinion are just stress that has been managed incorrectly. I don't smoke weed anymore because well that's another story haha but yeah. I'll talk with you some more later.
     
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    Thank you so very much for all the info, I appreciate it very much.

    I will look into the apple cider vinegar as that sounds promising, I also do the lemon juice with water and that really does have a positive outcome and helps with all the toxins and balancing of Ph levels etc. Anything to help maintain my bodies strength and natural abilities, I'm all in for. Will take this advice and work on it.

    Thanks again :)
     
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    And Marijuana oh man, been smoking a lot of that lately and I am going to stop as it only makes me eat MORE junk and shit I don't need. It's great for relaxing and just going stress free but the hunger I get from it is just an issue I can't manage.

    Look forward to talking more
     
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  9. JustUs

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    Yes. I am diagnosed Bipolar 1. Initial diagnosis long before it was called Bipolar Disorder. Initially diagnosed by Dr. Fredrick Goodwin, Bethsida Naval Hospital, back when it was call Manic Depressive Disorder.

    Been on:
    Lithium - useless for me. Numerous side effects including the need for weekly blood tests.
    Elavil - Ok for anxiety and migraine headache control. Otherwise there are more effective medication.
    Trileptal - works but has sodium reactions that can be fatal if not watched.
    Depakote - effective, but not for all.
    Thorazine, Stellazine, and Prolixen to control hallucinations during extreme episodes. There are more modern medications.
    Been on several SSRI's over the years.

    For those that say exercise is the key. You should run from them!!! I say this as an old power lifter and body builder. and one that ran three miles per day for aerobics. The person that claims exercise is the answer is talking out their ass! If you examine Bipolar Disorder as a spectrum disorder, it is anchored on one end by Bipolar Disorder and on the other by Schizophrenia. Schizo-affective Disorder is somewhere in the middle. If you examine dissections of the brains of deceased bipolar disorder patients and compare it to the dissections of the brains of deceased schizophrenic patients you will find the same pattern of holes in the brain tissue. This suggests that bipolar disorder and schizophrenia are medical diseases.

    As to medications, that is something that you should discuss with your shrink because not all medications are effective for a person, and many medications may lose effectiveness over time.

    You should keep a diary and determine what your triggers are.
     
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    Youtube: Yoga and bipolar

    Homeopathy has some miraculous remedies but you'll need to go to a very good homeopath to really get a great result!
     
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    If i didn't know any better i would say that I posted this thread...
    I was diagnosed Bipolar and after years of denial I have finally realized the facts and admit I am a bit manic at times
    and at the end of the rope, very depressed at other times. I was on Adderral and Lithium but I think I am addicted to the craziness, so i never take my meds...goodluck finding balance.
     
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    That's blind batting and unneeded hating something that you've no idea about! And what does your Allopathy do? Create side-effects and more diseases? You're one of those victims created by western insurance companies who have brainwashed entire society to become their allopathic slaves...

    There is nothing called "randomized" in homeopathy. Every case is a special case which needs careful study of its own and then carefully selected remedy is used -- that's the true working of homeopathy. If you give one medicine to a collection of systoms or a "disease" then homeopathy fails.

    P.S.:
    There is one sentence by a reader in that article that proves my point:
    "This trial is akin to giving everybody who is sick "penicillin" and if it doesn't work, it proves that ALL conventional drugs don't work. Yeah, this trial was THAT bad."
     
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    I would look into trying L-Theanine. I read some reviews on Amazon where people were saying it worked better than their anxiety meds.
     
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    please be careful with the medication..
    once you start, it can be extremely hard to stop..
    it is possible you have adhd. Most people diagnosed with adhd do have another disorder.

    if your already taking alcohol , dont take any other medication.
    just continue to see a therapist...
     
  16. JustUs

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    If that is what you believe, power to you. But please answer in scientific terms how something that is so diluted that it contains not a single molecule of the original substance will have any effect stronger than placebo. Save the crystal lattice explanation because water is a bipolar molecule.
     
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    You'll never understand the concept of energy then. Forget talking about this with me -- it will take you a lifetime to understand the topic. Scientific???!!!

    I know it works, and so I suggested the therapy. It's up to OP to go for it or not. I have no time to start a useless debate with you, whatever you think of it.

    P.S.:
    Btw, I practice homeopathy (after leaving "conventional" system of medicine), and I've seen great results of it. Whether the results were due to coincidence or one-time wonder, I and the concerned patient didn't and don't care -- a good result is achieved and it's sufficient for everyone concerned. End of this topic for me.
     
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    If that is what you believe, then power to you.

    To make a few things simple for you:
    I probably know know more about herbal medicine than you ever will. Most of my medicine actually comes from my spice cabinet. But because the practice of medicine and cure of disease is actually a scientific practice of experimentation, you have to know when to go to an allopath. My first degree was in Electronic Engineering. I would wager that I know more about energy than you do. If there is an energy field, then it can be tested. There are several tests with Native American Shamans that have shown that they can raise energy. This means that some elements of mystic magic can be tested. Homeopathic remedies have never been shown to have any special energy field. The claims of energy transference forwarded by homeopathy are nothing more than junk claims attempting to justify a proven junk practice. However, some people gain some benefit from homeopathy due to the power of belief, also called the placebo effect. Being bipolar, I am qualified to write of it's affects for myself. Each person experiences reality differently than any other person. To add a kicker to the mystical aspect, I am an ex-member of the Argentium Astrum. This gives me an insight into the power of belief and various elements of reality.

    I wish you power in your beliefs.
     
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    I am still there, I stay away from allopathics, ayurvedic medicines and good diet helps.

    then when it comes to dealing, music, hanging out with friends,reading or sleep helps.

    OP what apart from medicine has helped you?
     
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    i was diagnosed bipolar back in 2010, i was put on so many types of medication and none of them really worked or if they did it was only for a while.
    then i became atheist and started going to some groups meetings just to share ideas and thoughts about life etc... and someone suggested that i start going to the gym with them so i can join their rugby team at the start of the new season, so i did that and changed my diet and it helped a lot as my moods swings were reduced to almost none but the anxiety was still there so i asked on a bodybuilding forum if there is anything i can do to help ease the anxiety and someone suggested : phenibut , i never looked back ever since.
    i can now say that i'm fully functional with no depression or anxiety what so ever.
     
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