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Myths about SEO + does old black hat school tactics rly don't work? Check it on your own ;)

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Mysterious Stranger, Jun 13, 2019.

  1. Mysterious Stranger

    Mysterious Stranger Registered Member

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    Hi, below - interesting post (translation) for BHW members.

    Most guys says, that blasts (with possitive effects) on money sites are not working since... 2014-15? Maybe even a little bit longer. So - read the post and reconsider it again ;)

    (Written 13 January 2018)

    Hello!

    I read the forum long (well before registration), but it's time to share with you some interesting facts about SEO in the BHS version and as it's directly related - in general. The name of the topic is quite controversial, but below you will find out why. I recommend to familiarize yourself with the whole, because it will be quite extensive (for such a "silence" as I do) list with screens and examples, so that - perhaps - you can change your approach to positioning. You won't find a similar topic anywhere else, these are my original methods and case studies, no translations or "inspirations" from other authors. I wish you successful reading, reading to the end and commenting. So.... Let us dispel a few myths:

    1 - the proportions of DF/NF links must be maintained, NF links do not transmit power/do not ranks/blah blab blah:

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    As can be seen on the above summary - the website has a lot of traffic (nice, competitive phrases for global), despite the fact that 99% of links are NF links and only 29% of domains referring "blind" DF links. No, there are no DF links from the backend hidden from Ahrefs. "Beautiful story" about DF/NF ratio and NF power ceases to be so obvious ;)

    2 - blasts don't work + 3 - you shouldn't blast the target pages + 4 - you can't position them quickly at the moment:

    An example of a website made for global, with a focus on the USA:

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    Blast was released directly to the target page (oh, you can't do that!). What's more - the sites linking by most specialists would be described as "spam", and the way the blast was applied as at least... strange :)

    Well... the most important are the effects, aren't they? Why do we need to "spicy" links that won't make our website top and/or give us traffic from organica? And here are the effects of the following blast in the level of estimated traffic and words from the long tail range, which later is enough to "push" into the tops:

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    I would like to point out that the target - USA - is the biggest potential for movement and long tail words, according to the assumptions of the project and blast.

    Okay, everything is beautiful, nice, but what does it mean for organic? The answer to this question is below:

    October 2017

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    November 2017

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    December 2017

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    a summary of the 3-month average growth over time:

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    A coincidence? A one-time "blind shot"?

    I don't think so... , which is a sketchy representation of a similar blast for the .pl website:

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    Organic effects (with focus on .pl):

    [​IMG]

    Of course - the organic movement is also satisfying and constantly upwards, even better than the global website.

    I would like to add that January promises to be even better than December and the trend is constantly growing for both sides ;)

    Adding to the discussion:

    - traffic targeted at desired niches and words for landing sites

    - gradual increase over 3 months, no messages in the SC - no hustle and bustle for the gugle, especially - given the last December changes in the algo - this is nice news

    - previously applied blasts have not yet done "the whole job" and their effect (before the application of the next ones) will be extended in time - this is how they were "designed".

    - No, the screens are not redesigned, it is the actual result of my actions :)

    - except for the blasts themselves of course the content + onsite done and other actions, but it was the blasts that played the "first violin".

    - further blasts in preparation ;)

    - positioned pages are niches (although not only), but I think that for highly competitive phrases after appropriate transformation this tactic would give equally cool results (I will of course confirm this experimentally)

    At the end:

    * (I'll give you a heads-up in advance) - please don't "spam" PM


    * no, blasts of fiverr, seoclerks or BHW don't work that way *)

    * Always question what you know about SEO, and especially what they "push" you (about 90% of the world's SEO).

    Greetings and I hope you have a nice discussion on the proper level.


    It's my first "meat" post here, on BHW. I hope, that you will enjoy it.

    Have a great day guys! :)
    (sorry for quality of translation, but I don't have too much time to wrote it properly)
     
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  2. HAkorehdeh

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    Nice post but quite a bit hard to understand. Maybe because I'm no much into seo yet. But, did you actually use a translator?
     
  3. Mysterious Stranger

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    None of the images work...
     
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    It's begging for likes ... it's not allowed on BHW.

    Also, this case study is way too vague ... age of domain? What kind of niche? what kind of site (info-site, e-commerce, etc ...)?

    Also, please don't use Google Translator ... now this "organica" thing makes me want to prepare my green tea or something ...
     
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  7. oscars

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    I see them no probs

    Nice post btw.

    I am just getting into SEO again and building out a pbn. Is there any way to test what you are doing on some throw-away sites to see if this is better than what I am doing - or maybe I can do both.

    What would you do if you were me Mysterious Stranger
     
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    @mzonas - ah sorry, then (as i said at start - it's translation of post) - I will correct and clear the post.

    Ah, can't edit it now :/
     
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  9. Mysterious Stranger

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    @oscars - thanks :)

    My post was about some tests, to prove, that not always crappy methods are such crappy, as we often hear.

    If I was in your place - I would focus on building good PBN - it will be always much more secure and easier to manage, than blasting site:

    1 - you don't need to afraid about dropped links in time

    2 - you have more control in yours link profile (easier to manage manual XX links, than made in hundreds or thousands made by automatic software)

    Imho - good method is also mixing both, for example - pillow links from software + money oriented kw's from hidden PBN.
     
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    Excellent share , however a little bit more depth would have been greatly appreciated.
     
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    How you guys can understand this post? God darn...

    Please someone tell me a TL;DR version, and thank you very much.
     
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    Good one. The thing is how you do blast.
     
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    @terrycody here you go - TL;DR :

    1 - blasts made on money site still can give you significant increase in organic traffic without neggative consequences

    2 - well used automatic software is still "in game"

    3 - shi** links spots also could be used to made some good results

    4 - you can rank sites making NF links as main part of link profile

    5 - you can rank new sites pretty fast to get organic traffic, without waiting X months to get results (not only as churn and burn, but also sites which will keep some part from the reached traffic volume)
     
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    Nice Post and maybe ill have to test Blasts again soon!
     
  16. oscars

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    Thanks appreciate this, oscar
     
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    I've removed that line for you from the first post, no harm done.

    Nice contribution though and you'll find members will click the like button to show appreciation.
     
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    The analytics is from 2017. Almost 2 years have passed. Any images from the same site with analytics from 2018 and 2019?
     
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    Hello, Sir
    Thank you for your amazing article about SEO, I've found it very helpful, especially nowadays, when I'm finally moving from Youtube and Instagram to SEO/SEM. But I'm just wondering, is it worth all the time working with SEO to rank your pages, when you can simply run ADS and instantly stay on top positions. What do you think? :)