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My website How can go out to the -50 penalty by google?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by maxken75, May 18, 2011.

  1. maxken75

    maxken75 Senior Member

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    There is some way to do to go out to this penalty and how much time i must wait to see my website still in first page?
     
  2. Maruk

    Maruk Power Member

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    WTF is a -50 penalty. Care to elaborate and care to tell me how you established the 'fact' that you got this penalty in the first place?
     
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    Ziloo Junior Member

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    I've never heard of it either.
     
  4. maxken75

    maxken75 Senior Member

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    It's when your website drop to the five page or six page of google when you was in the first.
     
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    Maruk Power Member

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    Ok that is what I thought. But I was afraid that you used some retarded 'Google penalty checker'
    What did you do leading up to this drop in serps?
     
  6. maxken75

    maxken75 Senior Member

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    maybe i have used for many times AMR blast to my site, i don't know.... and i pinged 600 articles last day.
     
  7. echaz

    echaz Regular Member

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    Google gives different penalties for different "stages" of spamming.
    The heavier your site is being spammed in google's eyes, the heavier is the penalty you get.

    A -50 penalty is when your site can not rank better than the 50th position in Google. There are different kinds of penalties, the lowest penalty in my experiences is the -30 pentaly, which is just a warning by google that they know that you're spamming.. I think the worst penalty is the so called sanbox..

    I have several sites which have -30 penalties and -50 penalties. However I seriously do not know why I go these penalties.. I have dozens of sites.. I always promote them the same way.. Some of the get the penalties and some of them just rank on the first places..

    So an answer to the OP question would interest me as well.
     
  8. Maruk

    Maruk Power Member

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    Ok then I am almost sure it just a dance. Your backlinks are probably getting indexed and your position is being re calculated. It happens to me all the time, especially after a big SB blast.
     
  9. maxken75

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    And have you seen if also your main keyword drop to the first page in the five page? in my case all my keyword included my main keyword drop all in the five page.
     
  10. Maruk

    Maruk Power Member

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    Hmm, well I have to say that it happened to me only when I did big blast with my keywords as the anchor. Google really needs to recalculate your position based on the new anchor juice you got.

    But the more I think about it, if you did nothing out of the ordinary and ALL your pages and keywords got hit, you might actually have been under manual review to the likes of JC penny and Overstock.
    In that case you can only re do your pages and remove all spammy attributes and hope your position gets re instated.
     
  11. maxken75

    maxken75 Senior Member

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    I made only AMR blast every day.
     
  12. jerzydawg

    jerzydawg Supreme Member

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    Where are people getting -50 from? Are you guys using that INACCURATE tool where you put in your website and hit submit?
     
  13. maxken75

    maxken75 Senior Member

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    Now with a tool found on internet to see if my site got penalty it return me this result:

    This domain has a -30 penalty.
    What do you think that i can go out this penalty?
     
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    jerzydawg Supreme Member

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    From what I know, this tool is inaccurate. Can someone prove me wrong?
     
  15. rastan

    rastan Regular Member

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    i have also been hit by -50 penalty for 4 of my sites. near about two weeks now. all sites drop on the same day. i think it was the linkbuilding with similar anchor text that caused this penalty but i am not sure.

    you can find out if you have been hit by the -50 penalty by searching for your domain without extension. normally you should be on the first page, but if your site shows up on page 5-6 or 7 you have been hit. also any you can't rank higher than page 5 for any keyword.
     
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    BHopkins Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Since Panda (and more yesterday) people have seen their sites drop to page 5 or farther. Most people around page 5-6.

    In my opinion, based on my research this was due to G devaluing forum links and comments. Build higher quality links and you'll be back.
     
  17. dkdemon

    dkdemon Newbie

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    Ohh god...

    Please understand that: You Can NOT Get Punished For Sites Linking TO Your Site.

    Longer answer: No matter what, You can not get punised for sites linking TO your site.
    It's as simple as that. You can have 100k virus infected sites linking to your site, and it will not effect your site at all.
    Links to your site will not effect it at all, if you still believe that you can, why don't you just STOP link building to YOUR site, and instead spam all your competitors with trash backlinks, they would be sandboxed then?

    Also please understand that: There is no such thing as google penalty. Really. Give me one reputable source that mention google penalty and I'll maybe take it seriously.

    So... to answer your question:

    If you suddenly change position in search engines it will usually be one of the following reasons:

    * Google have changed their algorythm, and you have dropped in rankings because your site don't fit that so well.
    * Your on-page SEO is not good enough It can be anything, are you linking to trash? malware? virus? Do you have very poor content on your site?
    * Google have manually banned your site (not so likely) but yes, maybe google have manually banned your site. Do you promote illegal products? Or do anything that googles TOS do not allow?
    * It's google dance. If you have just blasted your site with thousands of new links, google are indexing those links and relisting your site. You will probably come back even stronger in a few days/weeks.

    Hope we have it all cleared out now...
     
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    ganja420 Newbie

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    Wow you are so ignorant. Matt Cutts himself talks about google penalties in his videos. And yes you can get penalized for being over aggressive with link building. Perhaps you should stick to talking what you actually know something about. The reason SEO isn't one big game of sabotage is that it does not necessarily work on every domain. If your domain has enough trust factors, external factors have less negative effect. In some cases, such sabotage might still help your competitor.

    I also have a -50 penalty right now which limits all my rankings to page 5+. Hopefully someone who has experience overcoming this penalty can share some tips about how to recover.

    If you're just here to dispute obvious facts, get a clue.