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My success, Your questions. I WILL spoon feed you.

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  1. PinkyX

    PinkyX Power Member

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    This thread will probably save probably tens of hours of seo guessing, and many $$$ to some of you

    Im writing this, and willing to help you NON PROFIT. I am probably one of few people here who will not tell you "use the search button". And you will also probably see me asking questions in other threads, because I'm not a guru.
    Why have I wrote this thread? Because as a newbie myself I know, what people who are starting are looking for.
    I will spoon feed you, because I've got nothing to hide, and I don't care if you'll become my competition - competition is what makes the market and what stimulates each one of us to at least try to improve.

    First of all, don't judge me because of my English, because it's not even my 2nd language (although I'm using it the most nowdays) and I'm not going to read what I have written 10 times to correct the grammar mistakes just because I've got better things to do (like watching a very funny video which I'm going to post at the end of this thread, so treat is as a reward for reading this freaking long post).
    I know it's very long but its better then any ebook avaliable for 2 reasons
    1. It's free.
    2. I will (or will try to) answer your questions.


    First, let me give you my background story. Probably the most important difference between me and you is the fact, that I actualy have not came here with intention to make money. As some of you (the ones I've met) know, I am currently doing my bachelor degree in business administration (specialization in marketing) at business school somewhere in Europe.
    I've chosen this path because when I was in high school I saw a movie (which wasn't about it) where 2 guys had their own marketing company working for japanese, and I though like "this job is the one I was looking for all my life". So, fast forward to february 2011. After one of the classes, I was very inspired by one of our professors, and I just wanted to try to think outside the box about what is the future of marketing. And the answer was obvious - the internet. Let me tell you something - I had a few sites in the past, when I was a teenager, also I was into facebook marketing in highschool. But thats about it. I had no idea about SEO, I just knew that the term stood for search engine opti. Why I am interested in Internet marketing is because in the future I would like this to be my real job, I'd like to become digital marketing manager or director in one of the big companies. So I'm doing this just to gain some experience so I can put something in my resume. I doubt if I will be able to make enough money from the internet to pay at least for a semester at my school (thank you parents :))

    So google led me to the forum, which you are reading right now. I've joined the forum on february 20-30 2011 I think. And I had not taken any action for 3 months, but I was reading every new post, and also asked some questions myself, about the things I didn't understand.
    The reason I haven't started right away is because I've failed with my paintball importing business, because I've done very little research and then invested the money right away, which costed my parents XX.XXX$.
    This time I wanted to do everything the right, planned way. So please, DONT BELIVE PEOPLE who are saying take action, because how can you even try to fly a plane, if you don't know which button turns the engine.

    I own 3 sites right now, all created about a month ago.
    One of the is #2 on google, other 2 are #15 and #54, although the rankings for the last 2 keep on shuffeling.

    My earnings: for the last week sites which is number 2 on google was giving me 30$+ per day. Other two are earning almost nothing.
    But where the real money is from (at least for me) are seo clients.
    I've joined some freelancing sites and I'm working on 3 projects right now, which gave me over 1k$. I'm also going to advertise my SEO services and start looking for full time seo clients offline (local newspaper) and online (forums, more freelancing sites) soon. Also I'm thinking about starting a service on BHW itself, as well as on other blackhat forums.
    For me, it's really not about the money, as I'm getting x.xxx$ per month from my parents for food and fun (they're paying for the apartment).
    But I'll try to make a few K and Ill buy my parents a new TV to their bedroom or fund them a holiday, as I've never worked in any real job and they think that I'm... you know :p
    Also If I would manage to make even more I would for sure help my parents with paying the tuition for my masters semesters in switzerland, because they're 50 000$ each..

    Tools which I own:
    Market samurai
    Traffic Travis
    Xrumer
    SenukeX
    TBS
    TweetAttacks (bought it yesterday and haven't even used it yet)
    Scrapebox
    AMR

    ALL RUNNING ON A DEDICATED SERVER.

    When it comes to the tools, I have no idea if it's me being super smart or what, but I often see those posts where people are saying that after 1 month they've mastered scrapebox. -LOL (have I told you I've started doing offpage seo 3 weeks ago?)
    If not the time that it takes to post, I would have learned them in 1-2 hours each. It took me like 1 day to learn each tool (senukex - which was told to be most noob friends - took me like 3 or 4 days LOL, but it was my first tool).
    Maybe it's the effort and time that I put into this because seo became my real hobby and (even though I'm going to school each day of the week) I work like 8 hours a day, but it's fun for me, so it's not work at all. Holidays are starting on 10th so I guess when I'll come back home I will spend each day all day long in front of my laptop.


    OK, so you can ask me any question - about the tools - strategy - keyword research - ANYTHING - and If I know the answer, I will answer you - I have nothing to hide. Actualy, a big part of my success is due to other members of this forum, who I've talked to on private. First, I though I'll not tell you their names and that they will stay spam free, but I guess smarter of you will find a way to find the people I was talking to (unless they will read this thread first and unfriend me on bhw) - sorry guys :).
    I think each businessman and each business school teaches that the most important thing in business is not money nor skill, but your friends network. It's about asking the right people the good questions. But please don't spam them as I'll answer your questions in this thread.
    ALSO PLEASE DONT SPAM MY PM.


    AND YES, I WILL BUY VIP THIS OR NEXT WEEK, NOT BECAUSE I OWE SOMETHING TO THE OWNER OF THIS SITE, BUT BECAUSE FROM THE POSTS I DEDUCTED THAT THE REAL TALK AND MORE ADVANCED THREADS ARE IN THE VIP CHAT.

    BONUS1. My mistakes.
    The biggest mistake I've made was buying a server from BST - 50$ for all the tools you can imagine. Because it's very slow, and it will take AGES before you will rank for more competitive keywords.

    Second thing - no, 10 proxies are not enough. Unless your promoting only 1 site ofcourse.

    BONUS2. THE VIDEO :)) Yes ypu've made it :p
     
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  2. SweTech

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    Nice initiative OP. I am not in need of any help but I just wanted to say that I do not totally agree with you saying that "taking action" is a bad advice for beginners.

    You can never learn how to fly a plane if you never sit down in the cockpit and start the engine. Also, SEO is not hard. A beginner can learn how to do KW research and basic on- and offpage SEO in a day or even hours, hence building a small moneymaking micro-nische adsense site.

    The real challenge is when you want to take the step from "spare time SEO" to "Professional SEO", hence working with multiple clients and sites.

    Anyway, nice of you to share your experience and I am sure the thread will be very useful for the beginners out there. It is always nice to be able to ask questions and get knowledgeable answers :)

    All the best,
     
  3. Minupi

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    Thank you for such a nice read :)!

    I have like 1000ths questions for you, right now xD

    But, I sadly have to go visit my friends in 1 min :) So you will get my questions when I
    get back.

    Just wanted to say thank you for offering this to the community!

    Best regards Minupi
     
  4. PinkyX

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    I agree with you, I did not mean the KW research and creating the website itself. I was thinking about doing blasts, pyramids etc.

    But you also have to admit you can't "take action" even with keyword research, if you haven't done a proper research on the topic first!
    Just look at all those threads where people are asking if they've found a goldmine, and later on they are dissapointed because they have not used the exact match option in the keyword tool. Or with traffic travis or MS - the count of links doesn't tell you anything about their power.

    And all the tutorials on this forum lack some info, which if you're smart enough you will ask, if not, you will not even notice you aren't using methods full potential.
     
  5. m_zec

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    Hi,

    first I want to thank you for taking time to help people.. :)

    I have question about seo clients... You say that you joined few freelancing sites and getting clients from there... I am looking to get few seo clients myself for the first time... For now I am working on few of my sites but I am looking to expand, like offering services...

    Can you tell me little more about that..? Like hpw did you land your first client, how much do you charge, do you have any specific seo strategy for clients...? And stuff like that.. :)

    Tnx!
     
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    Thanks a lot for starting this thread,there are a lot of noobs like me who need help:D!!
     
  7. PinkyX

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    Starting from the last question - I am using the same SEO strategy for my clients as for my own sites, if the clients site is old, and it usualy is, you just execute your strategy again and again on his sites (make a bigger link pyramid).
    A special thing about the strategy for clients sites is that I don't blast them directly with anything. I make the first tier manualy. With my sites I've blast amr to the root, and haven't done anything manualy.

    The best idea when looking for clients is to actualy show them your portfolio, make a free keyword research and competition research, do reverse engineering on their biggest competitors and give them the report with their seo strategy for free, when applying for the project.

    I hope this helps :)

    OH, and you can always try to charge minimum, because what we blackhatters can do for 500$ or even 300$ is way easier and requires less work then other peoples work (on freelancing sites). When you'll see that the offers are between 800$-1500$ just offer it for 700$, You'll make a great impression on the client.

    You wouldn't take even 200$ for what you will do on BHW, so it's like free bonus.
     
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  8. m_zec

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    Ok, thank you for the tips.. :)
     
  9. vishalgmistry

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    First i would like to thank you too for this thread.
    now all i want is can you let me use your tools xD.
    badly need scrapebox & AMR. Thanks.

    i will not mess around with your stuff i already learned how to use it.
    so i would really appreciates if you can.
    i know if i would have been in your place i would not let anyone but i am just asking.
     
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    Thanks for this thread.

    How much money do i need to use those tools on VPS or dedicated server including proxies?

    Where do you get clients who are ready to pay even $500/month for SEO?

    How do you propose the SEO strategy? Can you PM me any seo strategy example?

    Which keywords do you propose to your clients? is it based on competition or search volume or what?

    How much time does it take to rank for the keywords? and what timeframe do you propose to your client?
     
  11. PinkyX

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    Haven't seen that one comming.

    You have not made me laugh, but I've smiled :)
    Sorry, but I don't think that's possible, as I'm using my dedi 24/7 and I'm seriously thinking about buying another dedi.
    The topic was about free answers (time & knowladge donation), not free items. Ah guys, also please don't ask me for money xDDDD sorry that I haven't stated that in the first post, I though that was obvious.

    Anyways nice try:p but sorry I can't do that.
    Have a nice day.
     
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  12. Vinny3001

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    Hi PinkyX !!! Is scrapebox working for u? I mean. I have scrapebox and i am using it but i can not see any results. The comments are not sticking. I dont know. Maybe are the proxies i am using. Any help? Thanks
     
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    1. Depends on your needs. I'm paying 174$ for the dedi, and using 100 proxies.

    2. Google => freelance/freelancing/hire freelancer => open one of the pages => go to the seo tab => pick up the project => do what I've told to our friend from the previous post (he asked how to get the clients).
    THIS WAS REALLY SPOONFEEDING RIGHT?

    3. I can, although I will not because I already have written that long ass post. But basicly the strategy is MONEYSITE (RANDOM URLS) <= tier1 (manual) <= tier 2, amr <= scrapebox, xrumer. BOOKMAR EVERYTHING STARTING FROM TIER ONE, MAKE RSS ETC. DONT DO THIS TO PROFILES AND COMMENTS, LET GOOGLE FIND THEM. I guess you know the drill. Each time I randomize the amout of propreties in each tier so dont ask about that.

    4. On both. But usualy they do know which keywords they want. If they don't, I just pick up the ones with moderate competition, so you can work with them longer = $$$ for you. If its one time payment, they usualy already know the kws.

    5. It depends on the keyword. I just tell them that I will do it as fast as it is possible to stay under googles radar and not get your site banned, sir.
     
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    Yes, it is working. What you have to do is create autoaprove lists (or buy them, but I dont recommend doing this, because competitors may stalk them to get into your niche), and then blast, but not directly - using buffer sites. Also try to randomize the links incoming.
     
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    THIS IS HOW TO CREATE AUTO APROVE LISTS - I M SURE ULL ASK IT IN FEW SECONDS

    a. Use custom footprint instead of selecting wordpress, blogengine or movable type.
    Now, for this part, if you do not know how to use a custom footprint i recommend reading SEO-footprints and you can find the e-book by visiting the link below:
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...imization-footprints-backlinks-made-easy.html

    b. As footprint use "powered by wordpress" or "powered by BlogEngine.NET" or "powered by drupal" (this is optional as the new release of scrapebox does fast poster to most of the blog platforms so you can use it at your own will for every platform). You will wonder why i don't tick the blogengine button or wordpress button. This is just because i had better results like this. This is not a rule you can load your list of keywords and your own footprints and start harvesting. I strongly advice to use the book above.

    c. Load your list of keywords and hit start harvesting

    d. After the harvester has finished, delete duplicate url's (quick note: here i usually import the not completed keywords into the keyword list and harvest again untill it harvests all the keywords, it takes time but patience is a virtute ;) )

    e. Then, after the harvester has finished, do a test blast...make sure you use a non existing website in the website field, for example: http://fkjfksnfksn.com, or you can use a domain that you have and is sandboxed (maybe you get lucky and get out of the sandbox, then your website will have some good link juice), for the names and emails fields, open the name and email generator and generate female names only. (if there is any chance to get some moderated blogs to approve your comments it is most likely they will approve female comments, if you wonder what you need moderated blogs for, well you don't but just for the fun of it :p)

    f. After the posting is finished, export posted ones. g. Import and compare your current list with the posted list (this will remove the posted ones from your current list and this step is very important because you do not wnat to post to the same urls again), transfer your list to blog commenter and repeat the blast. h. After the posting process has finished repeat step (f) and add the posted entries to the posted list you already have, repeat step
    (g). i. Repeat steps (f), (g) and (h) until you only get failed ones.

    j. Import and replace the list with your gathered list of posted entries, transfer to blog list in order to check links and use the link checker. Export found entries and you have your list of auto-approve blogs. (Note: link checker is not an addon, you tick the button at the screen where you tick fast poster, slow poster and so on. You have an option that says check links)

    k. Now you can use this list on your money site without being afraid of getting caught by aksimet.
     
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    My question is on senuke x. I have a website with about 50 pages, with each page promoting diferent keywords. I have taken time to add contents to all the pages and I am about to start promoting them and this is where I am stuck. Using Senukex, do I have to create a separate campaign( social bookmarking, article directories, video sites, RSS feed, Press Release accounts) for each keyword ???
     
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    Yes, you have to. If each of those pages is targeting different keywords you want to rank for, they yes.
     
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    Oops what is that? OP is mentioning about being aware of seo for 2-3 months. Now he is giving service to some clients about seo. Moreover he is spoonfeeding people with (or without his methods) here on BHW. So impressive. Very good.

    Really OP I haven't seen even a word of you telling what you have done actually.

    You have got three sites. One is on the first page and the others are far back. And you show those three sites to some people looking for freelancers as your portfolio. And when they offer jobs for $1000-$1500, you give a quote something around $700. Then it becomes an earthquake on that forum so the owner of the offer (without looking at your past actions) give this job to you.

    I hope you show this post to those people .

    And please could you tell me the name of some of those forums on which jerks live and behave super stupid as you have mentioned?

    That will be your best contribution to this forum. I will give you rep and I will call everybody to give you rep and thanks too.
     
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    Thank you for this thread.
    Would like to know what does your SEO plan look like, steps you take to promote a site.

    +rep given
     
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