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My Study (backed with stats) of getting no1 on small keyw. Expert opinion would be awesome

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by iknowjack, Apr 15, 2012.

  1. iknowjack

    iknowjack Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Some facts.
    I am doing some long time research on my 2 years old WP powered domain. Majority of articles there are over 1 year old. By small keyword i mean keyword with like 200 global searches a month or so. Domain pagerank (PR) is 3

    Keyword 1 (pr of subpage is 1, measured by prchecker info)
    I am trying to get rank no1 on same tiny keywords, one such example is 3 word keyword that gets only 150 searches a month.
    On purpose i took for example keyword, where:
    -initialy i didnt become top spot naturaly just by creating article
    -keyword is NOT really some money maker where i could expect heavy competition (so its easier to do study)

    ADWORDS DATA for keyword 1
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    Keyword Global Monthly Searches Local Monthly Searches Estimated Avg. CPC Estimated Ad Position Estimated Daily Clicks Estimated Daily Cost
    [jjjj kkkk llllll] 150 150 $0.00 0 0 $0.00
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    TRAFFIC TRAVIS DATA for keyword 1
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    research / keyword
    Global count US count Competition Average PPC SERPS
    150 50 10% ars4 1300

    seo / competition (default to check on is google us)
    Difficutly Pagerank backlinks page backlinks site serps
    easy avg0/med0 20/0 3600000000/300000 8000

    seo / competition / view details
    keyword1totaldomination.png
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    All result on top 10 are my seo work, my artciles, my video, nothing belong to competition, al those content backlinks to MY WEBSITE PAGE in same cases with url as keyword in majority of cases with exact keyword1, but i dont get why MY WEBSITE PAGE aint ranked no1. I will probably get answers i need to wait. But my website on google results reacts extremyl fast in google (if i make new page, it will be up in google in 5 minutes...i am not joking, 5 minutes!). And seo work changes are visible in like 1-2 day (results of link piramids for examle, or other sort of backlinks)

    Also if i use some other reliable tool for measuring keyword rank (i thnk it measures global keyword rank), there its similar story, al top 10 links are mine, so total domination in top 10 spots, but MY WEBSITE PAGE is no3. No1 is the one as seen in Trafic travis on no7 in my picture


    So to sum up, all top 10 spots are my links (submision on article sites, social sites, web2.0, video sites and of course my main site). 9 results links back to my main site, but my main site aint no1. What to do lol ? :) whats your opinion ?
     
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  2. RuiGomes

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    I guess that all the properties have links back to you right?
    If so, your only option would be to build even more links only to your main website. Quality links, not XRumer kind of links. I think a combo of Social Bookmarks + Wiki Links + High PR Private network blog posts will get you higher than your other properties.
     
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  3. iknowjack

    iknowjack Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Yes the do, all of them.
    Also for quite some time i am not anymore a fan of xrumer or scrapebox. Although i have done virtually everything...and like i said got total dominating in top 10, if not in top 30 sports...its just...all links are pointing to my main keyword page...but my main keyword page aint no1. the total domination would say i have all the correct link juice, becouse 90% of "top 30 competition" (which actually was made by me) is pointing to me..but still this doesnt make me no1 with my main keyword page
     
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    It happend before to a lot of people.When you create this kind of backlinks,you need to watch out the keyword density of each property,or some of them might get some link juice from the main domain,might have better onpage seo then your money site,and they're going to rank higher.
     
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    Yeah that must be a super easy market! One thing I notice as well, is that according to Traffic Travis there, all of your on page SEO is non-existent. If your main site is spot 6, it has 0 on page SEO, that would help tremendously. It looks like you have really spread the off page SEO love to the whole site, I would just focus more on the main page now with safer things like web 2.0's, juice those, and social bookmarks.
     
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  6. iknowjack

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    yeah, by trafic travis i am having four X for on page seo, the thing is on that particular page i am targeting multiple keywords, this is just one of them that i "pulled out" for debate, i didnt do on page seo becouse that would impact other keywords. I also have youtube video on my page, with link from my page to youtube lol..no wonder youtube is stronger and i wonder why :) not to mention i also have link to youtube vide from that main keyword page (which is not root of domain btw...and btw that keyword is not by any chance some main keyword on website...where i say MAIN page or MAIN keyword, i meant main for this debate/experiment)

    and just to clear those TT stats:
    1: its youtube url, with video that i uploaded with included backlink
    2: similar to 1 with included backlink
    3: some other video site with video that i upload with included backlink
    4: this is some article or web2.0 site...with my article and of course with back link
    5: again some video site video that i uploaded and again backlink
    6: not this is page on my site...the target....for this debate "main page".......and it have back link and embeded url to youtube..1 or 2...not sure now which one
    7: simiilar stuff as 1-5
    8: simiilar stuff as 1-5
    9: simiilar stuff as 1-5
    10: simiilar stuff as 1-5

    i cant change title, or description, becouse that would scr up other keywords on same page....perhaps i will add a h1 tag and remove one instance of this keyword from article...i could also try removing youtube link and video...but god knows what will happen if all the sudded page content gets changed after 2 month (article was created 1 year ago i think, and it was modified once 2 months ago just a bit)
     
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  7. iknowjack

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    I almoust forget to give some final comments on this topic (becouse i in meantime moved to more tougher keywords)
    So just quick update, i managed to get no1 on this easy keyword (my main site is no1, all other top 10 results also belong to me, and they are tier 1 or in some cases tier 2 backlinks)
    So its total domination on top 10 results in google