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My situation with the big G. Help?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by nothingmore, May 8, 2011.

  1. nothingmore

    nothingmore Junior Member

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    -I have a 1 week old website.
    -Ranked #4 on B and Y (my main page)
    -Ranked #30-33 on G (a tagged page, not my index page)
    -That tagged page now goes to a 404 page. The person has to click something to get back to the home page.

    Ok so I'm wondering:
    Why I'm ranked high on B and Y but not G?
    I've heard something about 301 redirecting but what does this exactly do and how will it benifit my website?
    What happened to my main page on G? It's indexed on there but it isn't showing up for my main keyword.

    If you need more info please ask and thank you so much BHW.
     
  2. zmoney

    zmoney Senior Member

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    Gotta remember G and the "others" are totally completely different beasts, with different algos. Don't worry about Y and B. Worry about G.

    Google rankings right now, really determine how good your site is. Don't compare them. Just work on G.

    This is normal. Don't say "oh G is bad", "G sucks and doesnt see my page blah blah"...

    It's more like, damn, I'm in #30 and I need to be #1

    Don't even let the words Yahoo and Bing cross your mind :)

    BTW, Your not even comparing apples to apples. Your comparing some tagged page to an index in the other engines.

    1 week is pretty new, don't even bother looking at this stuff.

    Write content, write content, write content.

    ~Z.
     
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  3. artizhay

    artizhay BANNED BANNED

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    Like the above poster said, don't worry about your Google rankings too early in the game.

    However, I have to disagree with his idea that you should ignore B/Y. It's naive to ignore 33% of your potential customers. If you work hard on getting Google rankings, great, but once you start ranking well in B/Y, you can increase your traffic by 50%. 50% more visits, conversions, and revenue.

    But, also, your rankings are pretty high for a new site. Did you do in-depth keyword research beforehand or are you ranking for a keyword that gets 100 searches per month?

    Also, a 301 redirect is supposed to tell the visitor that the page has been permanently moved. To a search engine, this is supposed to transfer all of your link juice, rankings, etc. to the new page. This is debated, but Google engineers themselves have said that a 301 redirect should do that, but they also recommend moving only small portions of your site at a time with a 301.

    Having the 404 page could hurt your rankings, if it's returning a 404 header status. In Webmaster Tools, I believe it says a 404 doesn't hurt your rankings, but why would a search engine want to rank a non-existant page? If it's returning a 200/OK status, the search engine will think its a legit page and will keep it indexed.

    It may be better to 301 redirect your tagged page to your home page? Or just build more links to your index.
     
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  4. asharma

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    Yeah, one week old website is extremely new and don't worry about your low ranking just yet. Also, don't "ignore B/Y", as much as they are not as popular as Google, they still will be sending some traffic your way. Besides, all these engines run different algorithms, so ranking well in one doesn't exactly mean you will rank well in other.
     
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  5. nothingmore

    nothingmore Junior Member

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    Maybe like 20min of research, I think I just got lucky considering it's my first time doing this. It gets around 10k global and 3k local a month according to Google and has very little competion.

    I think I will just 301 redirect my tagged page to my home page like you said.

    Thanks a lot guys!
     
  6. zmoney

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    To clarify, I meant Ignore Y and B right now, Chances are if you do good in the best, you'll do good in them all. Pull your stat data etc from Google is what I meant.
     
  7. fnd80

    fnd80 Regular Member

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    i stopped reading as soon as i saw "i have a 1 week old site"

    my answer is this: BE PATIENT.
     
  8. artizhay

    artizhay BANNED BANNED

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    Did you use broad match or exact match in the keyword tool? I just want to make sure you're using exact. The two can be drastically different. You don't want to learn that the hard way.
     
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  9. nothingmore

    nothingmore Junior Member

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    Woah yeah there is a big difference now. Thanks for that catch! I still think it's pretty good though with:

    Broad: 10k global, 3k local
    Exact: 2k Global, 600 local
    Phrase: 5k Global, 1k local