My site is Google sandboxed

When we refer to sandbox, we don't imagine google literally blocks your website from ranking. We are referring to how google stops new sites ranking for keywords that aged sites would be able to rank for. This has been proven time and time again with expired domains.

If a new site targets a keyword that has no relevant results, of course google will rank it if it thinks it's relevant and has low search volume, because if this site is spam, then it's a very low impact. Imagine google showing a spam site to millions of users a month, it wouldn't allow that, so therefor the algorithm is designed to choke new sites from ranking high volume keywords.

My new site ranked for a low vol keyword (10 searches PM) with low comp in 3 hours, and it ranked number 10.
I did a page on a decent vol keyword (5000 searches PM) with low comp and it took a week to hit rank 133, then took another week to rank 132.

I know my SEO, I know how to rank, and I know how to ensure i'm not over optimised by analysing the top 10 with POP and surferSEO.

You need to remember that the algorithm is just mathmatics. It's nothing special, it's simply mathmatics that has been optimized over the last few decades to actually bring relevant results out of billions of sites.

I curious one kw , as we know tons of new contents daily per sec we are talking , let's put an example like " how to lose weight " you just type a all title how to lose weight the difference is ranking which site appear first and last
so how Google rank like this? so end of the back backlinks ? a site have many quality backlinks will rank first than ?

or see the content first? Which something subjective? Sometimes I see short crap contents rank first than a decent good content site

so i curious
anyway I also feel zzz google update is literally now every week .
 
Go After Low Competition or Longtail Keywords When Your Site Is in the Google Sandbox
 
We are talking about the new domain not being able to rank in the first few months. You might get some rankings but things go much slower first 3 months. Buy a brand new domain and try to rank article for any keyword with some searches and let's see how you will do. You can rank after a week? Sure you do buddy, this is not 2012 anymore.

Again, I always start with new domains and not expired ones. If I buy an expired domain, I buy it because of its brand name, not for the SEO benefits. Domain age is NOT a ranking factor, not does it trigger any sandbox. I just gave you an example above where you can try yourself ranking in 1 week with a fresh domain, so I will not bother anymore replying to you.

When we refer to sandbox, we don't imagine google literally blocks your website from ranking. We are referring to how google stops new sites ranking for keywords that aged sites would be able to rank for. This has been proven time and time again with expired domains.

If a new site targets a keyword that has no relevant results, of course google will rank it if it thinks it's relevant and has low search volume, because if this site is spam, then it's a very low impact. Imagine google showing a spam site to millions of users a month, it wouldn't allow that, so therefor the algorithm is designed to choke new sites from ranking high volume keywords.

My new site ranked for a low vol keyword (10 searches PM) with low comp in 3 hours, and it ranked number 10.
I did a page on a decent vol keyword (5000 searches PM) with low comp and it took a week to hit rank 133, then took another week to rank 132.

I know my SEO, I know how to rank, and I know how to ensure i'm not over optimised by analysing the top 10 with POP and surferSEO.

You need to remember that the algorithm is just mathmatics. It's nothing special, it's simply mathmatics that has been optimized over the last few decades to actually bring relevant results out of billions of sites.

If you know SEO and it's been "proven" time and time again, then go ahead and don't take my opinion for it. While you suffer waiting for months to rank, I will get my rankings in 1/4 of the time. And it's precisely because the algorithm is built on mathematics that I can do that. If you knew any maths, you would know the concept of "sandbox" is just laughable.
 
I have been doing SEO for almost 10 years now and I always rank new sites within a week or 2 tops. How do I do that? I start with ranking low competition keywords first, then work my way up to medium and then hard ones. If sandbox really existed, you couldn't rank low competition keywords either in a short amount of time, but you can. Also, if sandbox existed, viral sites and news would never rank. COVID-related websites would never rank either when the pandemic started and there were quite a few of them who were created just for that purpose. And I could give countless more examples.

If Google put a sandbox in place, they would shoot themselves in the foot, because they couldn't give relevant results for queries never seen before. They also couldn't serve relevant results for queries which have existed for a long time, but the information needs to be updated and none of the sites in the first page haven't caught up with those updates yet.

What people call "sandbox" is actually the amount of time it takes to rank a keyword based on the available competition. There is also the issue of over-optimization, where you are filtered out of the results. Since 99% of people never fix these issues but just blast links, the amount of time it takes for those links to kick in and neutralize the effect of over-optimization is much longer than just fixing the issue in the first place. Add the fact that most of the links are complete garbage and that's why it takes 6 months to start ranking, if ever.

So, the problem is not sandbox, it's the keywords you have selected and the issues you have with your on-page.
If you can find keywords which you can rank with on-page SEO alone and avoid over-optimization, you rank almost immediately (within 2 weeks tops and most of the time even faster). Out of 100 people who do SEO, only 4 or 5 can do on-page properly. If you want some examples of other members, check out threads of phpbuilt & splishsplash.

Also, before you say it, what I call low-competition keywords differs from most people. And no, I don't mean unprofitable keywords with non-existing searches. Again, most SEO-s can't do proper competition research. When they see authority sites on the first page, they get scared & walk away. However, more often than not, those authority sites are not optimized for those certain keywords, so you can outrank them with just on-page alone and no links. There are countless examples of websites on the first page built in the previous 1-2 months ranking for keywords with no links at all. Check ahrefs, you can find them in almost any niche.

Now, for an actual example. Take a popular mobile game and research keywords of the type: "[game] guide", "[game] tips", "[game] cheats/hacks", "[game] free [currency], etc... A lot of those keywords have quite a few searches (thousands per month if you choose a popular game) and the competition in those niches is extremely low. You can create 10-15K words of content spread out between a few pages and rank in 1 week with absolutely 0 links, provided you don't over-optimize. You can still make money with those keywords via CPA/CPI, but you can't build a sustainable business by scamming users long-term. That's another issue and it's related to monetization. But the fact is, you CAN rank for those keywords almost immediately. If sandbox existed, it wouldn't be possible.

Stop blaming your lack of competency on myths that don't exist and instead start learning and testing.
So you're saying KGR keywords will help new website rank within a month?
 
So you're saying KGR keywords will help new website rank within a month?

Not just KGR keywords, but any keyword with low competition and by that I mean keywords where the sites on the first page are NOT properly optimized for, even if they are authority sites or big media companies. And yes, if you choose the right keywords, write for the users first, THEN optimize for the search engines (on-page), you will.
 
Again, I always start with new domains and not expired ones. If I buy an expired domain, I buy it because of its brand name, not for the SEO benefits. Domain age is NOT a ranking factor, not does it trigger any sandbox. I just gave you an example above where you can try yourself ranking in 1 week with a fresh domain, so I will not bother anymore replying to you.



If you know SEO and it's been "proven" time and time again, then go ahead and don't take my opinion for it. While you suffer waiting for months to rank, I will get my rankings in 1/4 of the time. And it's precisely because the algorithm is built on mathematics that I can do that. If you knew any maths, you would know the concept of "sandbox" is just laughable.

Again, I'm not saying every keyword is hit by the sandbox, but i'm saying google sandbox your website to prevent fast rankings on keywords with certain criteria. You seem to be confused about what the sandbox effect is.

And I'm not saying google have purposely designed a sanbox into their algorithm, I am saying the algorithm they have designed has a sandbox effect on new websites. This could be varios spam prevention algorithms they use which actually cause the sandbox effect.

To even deny that the sandbox effect is real shows your true understanding of SEO.
 
There is NO sandbox, it's just a stupid myth that still exists today because most people doing SEO are completely clueless. Your problem is over-optimization, which can be fixed by regulating your on-site SEO. In addition, you probably don't have enough links, so time to add some.

It's not a stupid myth. It does EXIST.

I know what I do. Not clueless at all.
 
ok,
i set up 2 websites around mid july

1 - a quiz site with 11 articles + 2000 words total
2 - a niche blog with 15 articles + 12000 words total


the quiz site is ranking already, but the other - nothing yet

I will be patient and keep building content - but has it ever happened before where I site never gets ranked ?
 
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