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My Site Came Back From The Dumps? Something Good Actually Happened?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by hellohellosharp, Jun 9, 2011.

  1. hellohellosharp

    hellohellosharp Power Member

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    About three months ago I made a small affiliate site for a certain Clickbank product. Since it was a small nitch and I had good onsite SEO, the site was in the top page of Google at #8 before even building backlinks.

    I decided to try and move it up to the top (#1) so I bought a link package of about 18,000 backlinks. This was obviously a stupid idea since the domain was new, and the site got moved WAY down to somewhere on page 50.

    I thought I had been sandboxed or something like that and basically just gave up.

    Since then, I have used the site to host PHP files for my affiliate links in articles that I submitting to AMR. It was a basic script, all it did was redirect all BOTS (search engines included) to my sandboxed website and everything else to the affiliate products.

    I have also submitted the site to some free Xrumer blasts that BHW members were offering (Thanks Guys!).

    For a while, nothing happened. I asked about it on the forum and I was told it was just a Google Dance. After three months though, I didn't think this was likely (I thought dances lasted about two weeks though?).

    Sure enough though, this morning I fired up my computer and find that my site is on the top page again at spot #5.

    The problem is I don't know what made it move up. Maybe the link juice from the first 18,000 blast finally came through? Maybe it was my AMR articles? Maybe it was the Xrumer blasts? Or maybe the whole thing was just a dance and the links were irrelevant?

    Any thought would be appreciated. I want to repeat this with other small sites and get the same results. Let me know what you think. :You_Rock_
     
  2. Methodic1

    Methodic1 Registered Member

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    This has happened to me before, it is google dance. They do sometimes last for a long period of time. As long as your site still have pages indexed in google it will likely still go up if you keep adding links, I have found article links are very important when it comes to gaining trust and getting back to page 1.

    Hope I could be of help and congrats on your site finally coming back from the grave.
     
  3. dgfalk

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    I had great news today as well. I had one site drop from #4 back to like 500 like 4 months ago and I just gave up on it. Today I checked and its sittin at #8 now

    Also had another site at #3 drop way drop in early may. Today it jumped up to #2. I dont know what happend since I didnt update the sites or add any new backlinks. Maybe it just need some time.
     
  4. Kogga

    Kogga Newbie

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    Maybe its the latest panda update, happened on 7th of june if i'm not entirely mistaken.
     
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  5. hellohellosharp

    hellohellosharp Power Member

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    thanks for the input guys...hopefully this thread can be used as hope for the many people out there who have lost income due to deranking/deindexing
     
  6. SuperLinks

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    This is typical with most new sites that build links like you did. I see it all the time, and experience it with my own as well.

    The search engines don't see all the links at once, and over time crawl the backlinks. As a result, a new domain will generally end up in the supplemental index for sometime until the search engines crawl more sites and the older links begin to age.

    Totally normal process with SEO, which is why a single money site is tough at times when you are trying to make some coin with SEO.
     
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  7. hellohellosharp

    hellohellosharp Power Member

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    wow thank you...it's good to hear it's just a normal process...do you think you could explain my analytics data though??

    webmaster tools showed me I had over 1000 backlinks yet a google link counter showed only 2. had google recognized them but simply refused to count them? thanks again
     
  8. oliver_winston

    oliver_winston Junior Member

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    More importantly..... Is the site earning you a profit?

    Also, Google doesnt' show all your links, try majestic seo. For example, in google i have 28,000 or so links, but with Majestic seo they show 3.5 million
     
  9. SuperLinks

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    Webmaster tools will always display a higher amount of backlinks than a normal link check via Google. Never do a link check via Google, that's not the place to check links.

    Use Yahoo Site Explorer for link checking. For example, here is a link to one for Domain.com (http://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com/search?p=domain.com&bwm=i&bwmo=d&bwmf=s)

    Keep in mind that Yahoo Site Explorer & Google's Webmaster Tools don't display ALL of your incoming links, I'd say roughly 60% or so. They do this to protect their algorithms.