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My Product is being attacked by a competitor on DP!

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Erik Creed, Mar 20, 2011.

  1. Erik Creed

    Erik Creed BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    Hi all,

    This is just too much, a competitor of my new PS3Manual product can't take the heat so he started a thread on DP accusing me of being a thief:
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    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=2126424
    What you think of this?
    And NO, I haven't even seen his product!
     
  2. cookiemonste

    cookiemonste Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    You copied him on a lot of things including the logo

    HIS
    [​IMG][​IMG]

    YOURS
    [​IMG]
     
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  3. Bryan

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    let's get real here whoever said theyve not used (not copied, but used) some ideas from other layout and tweak it little will be just lying

    if the salepage convert well you'd do the same thing

    its like adsense high ctr template, when someone put up that green/black high converting template for adsense everyone saw it and copied the shit out of it

    its all a part of the game, that kid on DP is a fucking idiot lol
     
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  4. Erik Creed

    Erik Creed BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    I got a designer (won't mention name) I told him I wanted a site similar to that but different.

    I think it's different but yeah some elements remind alot of the other site.
    But thats like saying "you can't use bulletpoints on your copy because thats theft"

    Hmmmm
     
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    Personally Erik i would just ignore the guy as he looks like a piece of shit

    If you wish to get revenge set up a few blogs saying that his ebook is worthless or its a scam. But make them in the bulk

    ;)
     
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    I wouldn't call that theft.
    I even use the same header from my competitors site many a times... and if thats theft, I am a thief :D
     
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  7. Erik Creed

    Erik Creed BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    Want to see my revenge? For real? Hold on I'll make him suffer for calling me a thief. LOL
     
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  8. Erik Creed

    Erik Creed BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    Payback Time 90% To Affiliates From BHW:

    Code:
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/clickbank/289596-need-affiliates-peter-williams-ps3-manual.html
     
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    Damn you will have alot more people promoting now :D
     
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  10. satyawrat

    satyawrat Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    One advice, just don't flow too much with emotions tht you end up hurting your business.... but then again I am wrong about 50% things I do..
     
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  11. Erik Creed

    Erik Creed BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    Yeah I agree...

    But if I am to analyze myself the outcome is just positive.
    Sure I get angry at this dude acting as if he was the inventor of this niche when it has actually been around longer than he has.
    He just took some keyphrase domain and launched a product and now he is acting like the inventor of the niche.

    So yeah I'm angry to a level, but I'm channeling the anger through productivity.

    Today I'm going to contact every one of his affiliates just because I'm angry.
    Thats hours of work I wouldn't be doing without the anger :)
     
  12. brent360

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    Hi Erik. I wanted to give you some constructive criticism about your site:

    That Fiverr girl doing your video review is not very good in my opinion. Here's why:
    1. She's not the right demographic to be a PS3 owner (middle-aged woman)
    2. Her testimonial doesn't flow and it's obvious that she's not particularly familiar with the PS3 or its problems
    3. I've seen this girl on YouTube a million times now. She does reviews for everything under the sun. I'd consider using JW Player or something else.

    So that could do with some tweaking. I think you would do better by simply hopping on XBox Live or the PS3 online service and finding some guys to do it for you for a few bucks or an all-expenses paid subscription to their service. (I think XBox Live is $50/year, or you can pay monthly. I'm sure a few guys would give you a quick fake review in exchange for a month's worth of online service.) Even people who play XBox but not PS3 will be more familiar with gaming and the problems associated with consoles, and they'll probably be within the average gamer demographic.

    As for the theft issue, I recommend that you contact the guy on DP and speak to him about the issue. In my opinion, you really did reuse the basic idea for almost everything. Normally, that wouldn't be a problem, but since you're in the same niche and are basically selling the same exact service/product... it's a huge issue. If you want things to run smoothly, I'd work it out with old-fashioned conversation.

    Edit: Looks like one of those weirdos replied to that thread on DP:
     
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    Yep the thing is with affiliate stuff your crap will get copied. When people start saying their stuff was copied chances are that they were not doing all that great with it and see that your doing well so they try to bring you down.

    From what i can tell the content is all different not using the same words.
    As far as the look and feel the site is close to the their site but you did not copy 100%

    Ever site on the way is someone like something else on the market.
     
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    Don't rise to the mother fucka or even argue with him, be the mature businessman and let your conversion stats blow his shit out of the water.

    Dp is full of product knocking fags, that breed on arguing with anyone on any subject, it isn't worth the time or effort, which can be put into more better things like creating or promoting a new product.
     
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  15. neo3187

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    the guy on DP isnt getting support there as well :D .. so you dont have to worry about anything.. even DP idiots dont think its copied...
     
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    hahahaha ... tell me about it :p
     
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    Honestly, you did "kind of" bite him pretty hard even down to the PS3 error codes on the sales copy. Stop acting like you're in shock. I wouldn't be to surprise if the manual isn't kind of the same also.
     
  18. Erik Creed

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    The PS3 error codes I can agree on it looks similar, but notice how it's not in the same order?

    I worked extra hard on making sure that part was different.

    As for the manual I have never seen his manual and I worked hard on creating my manual.

    I am actually shocked by his reaction, as soon as he see's some competition he tries to crush it by calling it names. Very unprofessional.
    I'll send him back to the stone age, I'll improve the site nonstop.

    He could have simply emailed me, he knows people will start promoting mine so he goes and posts in the affiliate section of DP telling people not to promote my product.

    That's just lame, I'm gonna teach him a lesson in marketing.
    The guy thinks he owns the niche, God Father wannabe :D
     
  19. lifco

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    Hate seeing stuff like this, you would think it would have the op effect and make him work harder making his site better and rank better

    The guys a plank thinks he owns the internet

    Dont worry about it mate

    If he is willing to tell clickback over this just deindex his site see how he like that / joke :)
     
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  20. Erik Creed

    Erik Creed BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    We just had a public war on DP, he is a tool.

    I looked at his past posts there and he spends most of his time talking shit about other sites that look like his site. I'm not the first one.
    He ain't bright either in one thread he said a site had copied his site and it turned out to be his affiliate.

    So we had a go at it in the thread, now he is attacking my product.

    I've been thinking about messing with him, perhaps I should buy lot's of traffic to put pressure on his hosting account LOL