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My parents don’t support me with business and are trying to fully prevent me.

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by freedomstyle, Sep 22, 2019.

  1. BassTrackerBoats

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    You need to "make something out of nothing".

    I wrote this for another person, but I am re-posting it. He was interested in a psychology niche and so "Self help" is a good niche for him.

    You could do something different like fitness.

    But you need to make yourself into "an authority"

    If you can show that you are "an author" of a book you parents might take some pressure off you and the as you do more complicated projects they might listen to you as you explain what your doing.

    Remember that in Internet Marketing if you can make 1 website that makes $1 a day, you can make 1000 websites that make $1000 a day.

    It is YOUR blueprint and the effort you take to implement it that is important.

    I remember attending a conference 10 years ago to learn about affiliate marketing. I was launching a product. One guy at this pitchfest was selling the blueprint for his entire business and how it ran. I talked to him at the break and ask him why he was doing that. He was creating competition. He said he wasn't doing that. Know why? He said that people would pay the $2,000 for his product AND NEVER IMPLEMENT IT. It would sit in the closet because they found a "newer and shinier toy" and would forget about him. I was floored and never forgot that lesson.

    ++++++++

    Create a brand for your fitness niche. TheExerciseDude.com is available. Make a brand that some artist on Fiverr can make into a logo.

    Get the domain for it, install Wordpress on your "free CPanel web host"

    Find a PLR club with several self help products on "self-help"

    Here is a couple -

    Functional Fitness

    The Future Of Fitness

    Fitness Tracking

    There are others. Google and you will find them.

    Use their sales pages as articles

    Pull chapters from the ebooks and use them as articles.

    Give away the courses to build your list or membership site.

    Create an Amazon shop with cherry picked products in the fitness niche, books, organic foods, health supplements, exercise clothing, exercise equipment, etc.

    Create a T-Shirt shop using your brand and one of the Print on Demand T-Shirt printers. See the articles on BHW about T-Shirts.

    The money is in T-Shirts. Everyone can afford a T-Shirt.

    To figure out the newest trends subscribe to trade magazines (usually free)

    If you want to be famous, cut your hair, remove the tatoos and wear a suit. Then take those PLR books and tweak/rewrite them to be your own product. Or go on Fiverr and get a ghostwriter to write a new 150-200 page "self help" book. Put your name on it, copyright it and print it on Lightning Source or Amazon Createspace.

    NOW you are an "authority".

    You have a website and a book that is for sale on Amazon.

    Promote them on the web (forums, youtube videos, etc) as well as locally at health food stores, gyms, spas, fitness clubs, yoga clubs, conferences, etc.

    You can repeat this process with each of those sub niches you see in the PLR products and you can build an entire network of associated "brands"

    Sincerely,

    TheEye
     
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  3. The MOOK

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    I was on the same boat as you about a year ago. However they never tried to take my stuff away as I paid for them myself.

    Anyways, you gotta understand that they are still stuck in the old school way of thinking about life since that's the way they were most likely brought up. They don't know about the endless possibilities of the internet, especially when it comes to making money.

    Try and educate them on how it works and lay out a clear view path for them too see what it is you're trying to accomplish.

    If that doesn't work then keep this side hustle on the low until you're making decent money. Then you'll have solid proof that what you're trying to do works!

    And yes I 100% agree with you that there's more to life than joining the workforce until you're ready to retire at 65. F**k that way of thinking lol.
     
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    I went through this for the better part of a decade. 17-27. Had small successes here and there but was always told that I just never had what it took. Then, at 28, everything started to fall into place and I’m doing very well between AM and IG marketing now. And like lots of people in this forum, I’m talking thousands of failures before a success. So much failure that people wouldn’t believe it. But never stop. Be a robot! :D
     
  5. smk436

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    Maybe consider doing both? Go to school for something that supports your end goals. Study marketing or business, or web design, etc. If your online ventures take off in the meantime, that's great. If they don't, you have a degree as a fall back - and better understanding of a specific niche (that you could most-likely form a more coherant business around than you would be able to without the additional education).
     
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    Well said. These were the exact words my father said to me while I was still living with my parents.

    This ^
     
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    And what I have said to my sons and step-children while they lived with me.

    Learning that there is a chain of command and that rules are set in place by those in authority are to be followed (at least most of the time) develops character.
     
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    Been going through the same issue for some time now. I stopped listening to them few months ago and its a fact now. Doesn't not do anything they ask me to do.
     
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    YOU HAVE TO GROW SOME PAIR AND LEAVE THEIR HOUSE.
    @Billy Batts shared a personal story about how one of his parents (don't remember if it was his mom or dad) kicked him out when he turned 18.
    Just start living alone and on your own terms.

    Just leave their home !

    Why you keep staying there if you don't listen to them anymore ? It's not fair for both of you.

    I started to live alone after college, at 22 years old. I started freelancing at that time. And I'm a woman by the way.
     
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    If you need forum to understand if you are pathetic or not creature so your parent's are right!
    First of all parents always wants best for they children's.
    Secondly school/college will prepare you for life.
    No matter is you earn money now but you will have no social life there will be a problem, try to search this forum for topics like i'm board , i have nothing to do, i do not have girlfriend... Money won't buy happiness.
    So if you live with your parent's first of all stick to they rules if they want you to study go study. Do your work's after school and try to do both.
     
  11. James1080p

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    Exactly what I was about to ask hahahaha :D
    For sure he's Indian.
     
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    For all these people saying school is important...

    You are all in the money game or want to be in the money game, then how can you say anything good about formal education?
    Formal education is kind of investment where you assume 100% risk with your investment, your school of choice assumes zero responsibilities and takes 100% profit.
    Literally the worst trade deal ever.

    First of all, that is bunch of crap.
    Second, if you are going to give lectures, even the crap ones, learn how to write properly...
     
  13. vrodriguez305

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    My mom used to always put me down for having a business and not working a 9-5 when I was younger. What I did was I went through the normal / sheep people steps like school, finding a job, and during that time I worked on my business at night so she couldnt' say anything, then my business made me more $ than my job so I quit and lived 8 years like that.
     
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    oh my oh my, sorry for my writing skills it's not my native language.
    But everyone lives they life and if someone ask in forum you can give him your opinion.
    You saying formal education is a crap, but if you have a company and hiring people you will hire people with education :)


     
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    Totally wrong again...

    Companies hire people who possess skills, not degrees.
    More and more companies are no longer requiring any kind of degree.

    You need to get rid of that poverty mentality.
     
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    Lol, because this kind of behaviour is mostly seen among the Indian parents. About 98/100 Indian parents would act like his parents did.
     
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    I tell my kids all the time, you can do whatever you want when you have your own place. Until then it's my rules.

    Your parents simply want what is best for you.

    Here in the US, we are indoctrinated to believe the only way to be successful is by shelling out tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars for a college education. Unfortunately, this is still the best bet at being financially secure, but not the only path to being financially successful. The reality is very few have the work ethic or talent to bust their balls and make it on sheer fortitude. Higher education is a good backup plan.

    My guess is you don't have a job and you are not making money in IM. You have nothing to show your parents that you have the potential for success in IM.

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    OP When was your age (possibly younger). not sure you answered that question but I'm guessing you must be somewhere around High School age - I was also quite enterprising - Been seeking out an pursuing ever means of making money I could think of as far back as I can remember (even worked for a door to door sales organization that ended up getting in trouble for child labor laws starting when I was like 7 or 8) and was printing out garage sale signs in full color as an additional side hustle when I was like 9 or 10 (early to mid 90s I'm old lol).

    Your parents are just trying to look out for you as best they can. To be quite frank, mine weren't at all interested in what I was or wasn't doing, so they never bothered to take issue with me conducting whatever business I happened t be conducting at any given time - but to be completely honest I sort of wish they had. Yes making money is awesome, and your obvious enthusiasm and zeal for it will take you far.

    All that will still be waiting for you in a couple years. Don't miss out on the EXPERIENCES that are right in front of you - that you will never have the opportunity to enjoy again - because you were too busy chasing after a buck, getting burned by an ad network, building a bot, or getting your paypal limited - all of that will be there for you after HS.... But get the best grades you can possibly get and the highest ACT/SAT scores you can so your options will be as wide open as possible if on the off chance down the road, you decide you want to try something else..

    Just remain open minded that possibility... At that age, it's easy to firmly believe - and with all sincerity - that what you want to do here and now is what you'll want to do forever and that it's only the obvious logical choice and want to (of not outwardly, at least your inner dialogue) dismiss anyone who implies anything to the contrary's statement as irrelevant or rationalize that they don't knw what they're talking about (For me, I certainly thought I had all the answers, more so than most legal adults lol) but just be open minded to the idea of gifting yourself the experiences of HS - GF/BF, Friends, Parties, Sex, Parties, Dances etc - make your academic portfolio the best it can be - so you have the option if you so choose to get into the school of your choosing down the road if you decide to pursue something else..

    You're probably not going to follow my advice lol I get it I was your age, and I saw the myopic post and responses above - you are hellbent on busines NOW nt in a year or two or however long till graduation... But on the off chance that you did read all of this - GIVE YOURSELF THE GIFT OF ENJOYING BEEING A TEENAGER FOR A YEAR OR TWO - gettng laid somewhere you shouldn't where you might get caught which makes it hotter - getting stoned with your friends, and maybe experimenting with other mind altering substances (STAY AWAY From Crysa Coke, Heroin and any Painkillers - others can be great in STRICT moderation lol) - go do things that only a High School age kid gets the luxury of getting to do - let it be a magical time..

    I'll close with this: As a widower twice over (yes, unfortunately I have had to bury 2 husbands, and have lived up to till death dill us part twice) One of the biggest epiphanies that experience has given me was this:

    Material Shit is just that - Shit.... It's replaceable... Interchangeable...

    What is NOT replaceable? People and Experiences

    enjoy those friendships and bonds you have and appreciate them in the moment - or at least TRY... nobody an do that perfectly - but when aoo is said and done, after youve gotten the benefit of the experiences capitalized on by the here and now, staying in school and making the most of it - you will be glad you did;..That much I can promise you ... :D
     
  19. freedomstyle

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    I have Asian parents.. lol
     
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    It can be the most demotivating thing ever when your parents are constantly trying to put you down and get in the way of you. Especially when it comes to risk taking. Even when I got my first sales job and the next year made more than both of them they STILL would keep pointing out the negatives like - what about the slow months?! What if you don't get a paycheck for the month?! What happens when nobody wants the product anymore, what if this and that and this. And honestly I thought it didn't have an impact on me mentally, but it did and still does. It makes me afraid to do half the shit I used to do - things that I've never needed a second thought to do or get started.

    I doubt myself more than they do now. Whatever the advice is here, it's definitely toxic if your parents doubt you and don't let you live your way of life and let you fail and succeed on your own. Just because they were brought up to do x, then y, and z, they think you should have to do the same. I'm not getting married or having kids so I'm only supporting myself. Not sure what their end goal is to keep putting me down and telling me everything I'm doing is dumb when I have no debt, my own place, and some dream cars I've always wanted. It's never enough.

    Actually, I lied about my own place part, I had to move back in with my mom recently because she couldn't afford the bills after my mom and dad got a divorce. Funny how that works.

    Anyways, enough about me, just relating to you OP. When I had a ton of confidence and everything went my way all the time was when I just did my own thing without telling anybody - nobody knew my plans. I was great at the jobs I worked, not afraid to tell people what to do or how to do it or if they need to improve at doing it, even if they were my managers. So, my advice is to just pretend you are listening, go act in the circus for them until you make it.