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Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by ehabh, Aug 28, 2011.

  1. ehabh

    ehabh Registered Member

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    Even I would not buy "Quality articles" from a company or web site that has this in their FAQ

    "We do not provide Ezine approval guarantee. It has so many strict rules. But that does not mean that articles are not quality."


    And if you do not know why then now I know how such people get business.


    Sorry I am not usually this sarcastic but I could not contain myself :)
     
  2. umairsheikh2002

    umairsheikh2002 BANNED BANNED

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    What do you mean? Yes, its true no one guarantee you for Ezine approval like as SEO provider. Google and Ezine has own rule and these are big giants so no one gives you a guarantee for approval and top ranking in this industry.
     
  3. becauseimhot

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    I'm always wary of services that guarantee anything. There is no such thing as a guarantee when you're paying someone who works from a hut somewhere in a village is there?
     
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    oxonbeef BANNED BANNED

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    That is terrible English in itself!
     
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  5. Stemar

    Stemar Registered Member

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    I wrote many unique and quality articles which Ezine did't accept,so don't be surprised if nobody can give you 100 % guarantee. And if you think that all native writers will give you awesome quality, then you are wrong. Most of them didn't check for spell and grammar errors just because they are NATIVE, but their asking price is higher because of the high standard in their countries. So, keep that in mind when you are searching for quality writers.
     
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    StOn3D Newbie

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    What has your mother's tongue to do with English language or articles?

    just joking..
     
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    dragonrage01 Power Member

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    The english is terrible. I seriously doubt they can provide high quality articles.
     
  8. judson

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    I saw a thread here at BHW, where the author not only dissed entire nations, but claimed to have the most amazing quality articles, written by native English, university educated speakers.

    He provided a sample, and I was so mad, that its a good thing my internet connection died. I was initially planning on commenting on the quality of the sample in the BST thread, but I thought that that would be bad form.

    <sigh>. Good writers are rare. Even when you are paying $1/100.
     
  9. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    My article writer, friend from college, and spinner graduated from Harvard with degrees in english and philosophy. Jewish guy born in the USA.

    150% unique articles + autoapproval at EVERY article directory of the spun versions,including ezine, because it's so readable?
    Yeah... You guys are looking at the wrong places for writers.

    $1/100 words? lol... my friend offered to write tons of unique articles for $5/700 words if I ever wanted them.
    Apparently that takes him around 10 minutes.
     
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  10. teeniegenie

    teeniegenie Supreme Member

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    Is he available?
     
  11. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    I doubt you'd want to pay his rates... or deal with his time tables (2 weeks for 5 150% spun articles), but if so PM me I'll talk to him.

    With his stuff I usually get 5-6 approvals at ezine/per article (from the spun versions)... I get around 5k web 2.0s and articles at other directories out of each. And I mix and match paragraphs from each for tier 2 shit. Even though we graduated from the same level of school (me HYP), his spinning is def one step above mine. I've never seen such readable spun content in my life, and even my own articles I did this level of spinning on were approved at all of these places.
     
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  12. uncguy4321

    uncguy4321 Regular Member

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    I hope you were not offended by his statement that native English writers can typically write better content than non-native writers can. If the target language is English, this is just a fact. If the target language is YOUR native tongue, I'm sure you'd have no issues stating that a native speaker of your language would write better articles in your language.

    So I assume he must have insulted other nations in another statement.
     
  13. seoguru13

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    I will admit that getting ezine approval in the past few months has been pretty tough. I used to offer a gig on fiverr where i wrote a 400 word article and guaranteed its approval on ezine. However, post panda I had to shut down the gig as ezine rarely approved. In fact, I got mad at them made them point out the errors in the articles, and most of the times, they were commas at point where it wasn't needed!! So no one in the world today can guarantee ezine approval for $1/100 words or so. Pay me $20 for a 500 word article, oh yes, I will get it approved ;) probably bribe a staff too.

    I just googled "We do not provide Ezine approval guarantee. It has so many strict rules. But that does not mean that articles are not quality" and landed on the site! I wonder how such a sentence would let you sell premium content.
     
  14. Expertpeon

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    You should probably spend 4 years, at a top 5 undergrad (to know that a comma shouldn't have gone there).
    Ezine is accepting my SPUN content right now... beyond even articles I actually hand write.

    It's all about knowing how to write intelligently.
     
  15. teeniegenie

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    I'll send you a PM, based on the rates I've seen for US-based writers, I'm probably not going to be too surprised...
     
  16. Expertpeon

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    Eh, he's prob cheaper than you imagine, for 3 level spinning, 3 sentence replacements, and 1000s of 150% unique articles.
    But hey, I'm not trying to sell this guy, I have him almost as busy as he can manage right now with only my sites.

    Most people as smart as my friend are actually unemployed currently (or in horribly underpaid jobs), even from these schools.
    I personally was unemployed for 6 months after graduation despite the HYP degree, even bookstores turned me down (and I had degrees in Mathematics and experience at a bulge bracket bank).
    I encourage all SEOers to put calls out to these people and leave those in Bangladesh to their poor English.

    Of course now, I have quite nearly an infinite supply of income coming in, but not too long ago I would have done this kind of job as well.
     
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  17. seoguru13

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    No offence meant, but i'd rather write an article that visitors would want to bookmark, share on facebook or comment upon than be "perfect" on grammar. I don't mind a writer taking creative liberties, as long as it's enriching to the reader.
     
  18. Expertpeon

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    You realize the most convincing articles are often the most well written grammatically/structurally right?

    Dumb people, when reading well written content, feel smarter. It's persuasive merely by being intelligently written, this phenomenon has been proven thousands of times, and been shown to work even when trying to persuade people to do very negative things.

    I'm not claiming ezine is doing this, or hoping to maximize this effect, but it is indeed quite often the case.
     
  19. seoguru13

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    I'd agree that being grammatically correct is very important, but if some very well written stuff was rejected because ezine's review team believed that a comma was missing, or that the article could be better in active against passive etc, I'd just stay away and my business without ezine.

    Creative, informative, well structured and grammatically correct. That's my priority in writing content :)