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My journey out of my shitty situation

Discussion in 'My Journey Discussions' started by moanon, Sep 23, 2014.

  1. moanon

    moanon Registered Member

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    Hi :)

    I'm a newbie in IM but I'm really motivated and I'm reading through this forum every day since I found it to get myself ideas and to learn something. At this point a great thanks to the community for all the valuable information i was able to find on here, I think I learned very much already :)

    A little bit about myself: I'm 20 years old and from Austria ( because I hear this very often: No it's not where the kangaroos live, it's in middle europe haha ;) ). I was always interested in the possibilities of making money online because I think if you can make a living from IM that would be total independence and freedom. So I'll start trying to reach that goal ;) I was working in an IT company for over a year until about 3 months ago and was able to learn a lot about web development ( mostly PHP. JS, HTML also naturally ;) ) so I think that's going to help me a bit also.

    About the shitty situation mentioned in the title:
    Don't get me wrong, it's not like I'm living on the streets or something and I'm also a bit negativly sarcastic but there are a few things which happened or are happening at the moment which aren't very nice and because of them I have absolutely no money at the moment, owe people money who you don't want to owe money to and if my bad luck from the last months continues I'll have to go to jail for 2-3 months. Also my beloved (first) car is about to break down and I can't do anything about it :(

    But enough with the whining, I'm also not that type of person who searches attention or compassion but I just wanted you to understand my situation and my motivations.
    I know I'm going to get rich one day and in my opinion if you don't think that way you won't haha :)

    I'm also posting this to keep my motivation up, so I don't give up even if nothing is working out in the beginning.

    What I've done so far:
    1. I've built a structure for small amazon affiliate shops on top of a PHP micro framework i wrote for myself. With it i can build such sites very fast with changing just one file with categories (menu) and under them the Amazon product ID's. It has about 1 MB and uses no database so i could fill my hoster ( has traffic flat ;) ) up with those sites haha but at the moment I don't even have money to buy domains .. Also all of the pages got indexed by google even though they pretty much only got affiliate links on them so i guess thats also not a bad sign (?) ^^

    2. Started promoting Amazon aff links on a page similar to pinterest a week ago. I have about 200 legitimate followers by now and my pictures always get between 400-600 likes everytime i post one so that sounds not too bad. Unfortunatly the CTR seems to be nearly 0. I haven't made any amazon sales but like I said I started this only a week ago so lets see what happens :)

    3. I started to follow cooldude7's method ( can't link it due to forum rules but just search for method :) ) a few days ago. yesterday i got 50 unique hits (third day) but today only 8 so far. No conversions. I'm trying to find out why the clicks dropped like that and I didn't put too much effort in it yet, so the numbers are ok to me.

    Let's see what happens ;)


    I will update this thread always when I think it's necessary or if anyone has any questions and I definitly don't plan on letting it die ;)
    Any suggestions or tips are highly appreciated haha :D

    Cheers, Mo
     
  2. cape verde island

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    Hey moanon, you don't live far away from me :) (No, I am not from Cape Verde Island)

    I wish you good luck with your journey, but I do recommend you to get yourself a proper offline job if you need money quick, because it can take months or even years to get any $$$$ from IM.
    But also keep working on IM methods at the same time, because IM has bigger potential ;)

    I think that php, js and HTML knowledge will help you a lot on this journey.

    My advice: Don't give up when something doesn't work out immediately, just stick to your method and keep working.

    Keep us posted,
    Cape Verde Island
     
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  3. The SEO

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    Best of luck with that journey DUDE, the way of earning you choose isn't easy as you describe. Good luck once again...
     
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  4. heyholetsgo

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    good luck bro :D :D
     
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  5. moanon

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    Thanks to all :)

    cape verde island: nice do you also live in austria? :)
    Yeah I know I don't have any choice in doing that, just came back from the job center.. But what I didn't mention is that I have a little offline income also. It goes up and down a bit and is paused at the moment but will continue in about 1 week, so if I could make about 500?/month from IM you could say that would be a "stable living" for me already because my spendings are very little also. So I will try to reach that as fast as possible ^^ I know that this could take some time but I think if I do enough and stay motivated it IS reachable.

    But thanks again to all of you for the nice words, I know this isn't gonna be easy but I'm sure I can make it somehow :)

    Here are the things I plan on doing today/tomorrow:
    (I will list it as P1 (Project 1) , P2 and P3 as listed in the first post)

    P1)
    I'm going to link the 3 different locations (US, GB, DE) with the right hreflang tags for google.
    This project is currently not that active, because the first page that is up is in a way too competitive niche and was mainly for testing purposes and to see how/if google indexes the page. As soon as I have some money from anywhere I'm going to search for a few niches, buy domains on them and try if I can rank such pages there. Does anyone of you know if it is a good sign that google indexed all of the pages? Or is it normal at the beginning when the site isn't online that long?

    P2)
    I'll try to get 20-30 new followers on this page. Shouldn't be that hard because I get about 5-10 followers everytime I post a new picture.

    P3)
    At the moment the domain only redirects to the affiliate link directly through an option from the hoster. I want to set up a PHP script to do the redirect because from there I will log the referrers so I have a better understanding of where the clicks come from and so I can optimize it. Also I'm going to upload 20-30 new videos.


    I have a few other ("offline") things to do today but I will try to shortly summarize what I've done in the evening and let you know about it :)
     
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    Good luck mate. Hope you get back on your feet!
     
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  7. OnMGrind

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    Hey good luck man. I'm in a similar situation. I have like 12 $ to my name... Car is breaking down. (I live in my car with my wife)... Car isnt inspected... so I keep getting tickets (cheap, but damn... 30$ ticket + 60$ process fee... that makes stupid sense I have like 4 of those... freaken hate driving but gotta do what u gotta do) Cant get my inspection cause my car is breaking down... plus no money to fix

    I have a job now.... but low pay. And I owe money to not people, but the bank. SO i feel you man. To top EVERYTHING OFF , My wife thinks IM/SEO is stupid. She doesnt even know wtf it is, and she judges it. But I know its not. You know its not. So don't lose hope man. I hope it works out for you!
     
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  8. akoakley

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    Good luck! I know the situation all too well. IM can be a great vehicle, but you definitely have to know how to operate it. I'm still learning myself. I hope you get back on your feet quickly!
     
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  9. moanon

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    Thanks for the words man, and damn you're situation sounds even more bad than mine man i feel with you, and I know what you mean most people you tell about IM/SEO just smile at you like you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. But lets keep our heads up mate and I use to say life goes up and down and the deeper you fall the higher you will get up again afterwards. And thats how it was in my life till now and I think it'll be the same for you if you don't let your dreams die. As you said we know that it can work out and that's everything that counts! All the best luck for you man!


    Thanks man and even if I haven't earned a single dollar till now I was able to learn a lot and I think that has some high value also already :) Good luck for you too ;)


    Well, I did take some time to reply to this thread and thats because the last two days were more than chaotic and stressful. Don't want to get myself some excuses though haha and it's not like I haven't done anything since ;)

    I will summarize the projects like I did in the previous post. I will write what I have done and what I plan on doing:

    P1) Same as last time, I didn't implement the hreflang tags yet because this has the lowest priority at the moment because it doesn't really make any difference if I implement them today or tomorrow. Like I said this Project isn't active at the moment and for testing only. I will do this point as soon as I have some free time where I can't do anything with higher priority.

    P2) Didn't post much so I only got about 15 new followers but from now on the plan is to get about 20-30 followers every day. Thats not going to be very hard just have to take about an hour a day if I can do more I will but I don't post too often because I don't want my page to look spammy haha

    P3) Thats my main project at the moment because I see the biggest potential for some quick cash from it and thats exactly what I need at the moment. Don't get me wrong, I don't think that this is going to make me a stable income soon but I get the most money from one conversion and even if it then takes a month for the second one, as soon as I have the first one I have some money for this one.
    What have I done in the last two days? I wrote a small PHP script to log the referers and even if I don't see most of them because most people seem to copy the link directly in the URL bar, I already got some good and interesting information which is nice I think :) I also uploaded about 25 vids to different pages.
    What am I planning to do? You might have guessed: Uploading Vids. I don't want to set a goal because I don't want to feel like I'm done when I reach the goal. Instead of it I will set an absolute minimum for uploaded vids. For today I will set this minimum to 25 videos, not that high but let's see whats possible and I want to increase it a bit every 1-2 days. Also I'm thinking about twists on this method and every time I have an idea I'll try it and see if it works out :)


    So the plans are up and I will post what I've done as soon as I can :)
    Have a nice day, all of you :)
     
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    Nice thought out and plan!

    P.S: So, do you currently use free domain name? Because I've read that you do not buy domain name, how about hosting?

    Anyways, I will follow and wish the best of you!
     
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    Good luck man, very interesting thread
     
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  12. moanon

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    Small update on P1:
    Because I'm in a cafe at the moment and I won't upload any porn videos here (haha), I decided to quickly add the hreflang tags. Done, but I saw that there is another thing which I should take a look at. The category pages don't work in my XAMPP. They work when I upload the page to my hoster. I only get a blank page with no errors in my XAMPP so I have to search for the source of this Problem. The thing which I did wrong is to change something when I first uploaded the page. I only updated it on the hoster because it was only a small change and that was the fault.

    So I'll note now: Always keep the things same online and in the testing environment!

    Lesson learned haha :) The page is up and working with the right hreflang tags and I will solve this problem as soon as I have the time to do it, I don't think that it is a big problem cause it's working on the hoster.


    Thanks :) I do have a hosting for about 5? / month but it's a german hoster and germany won the world cup i got 6 months free haha and I got 3 free domains with it, which I used for my first Project (P1). So I haven't paid anything for hosting yet and 5? / month im able to pay somehow ;)
    For P2 i have a wordpress.com page where I post the products from amazon (only title, picture with affiliate link and under it "click on the image for more details"). Then I post the pictures on the pinterest-like page with the URL from the wordpress page. I do this because I can't post from amazon with my affiliate ID directly and I think if somebody goes as far as following the source of the picture and then sees the pic again larger and with title and the "click for information" text he/she ( mostly she I think haha ) will also click on the image again and then he/she has my cookie already ;)
    For P3 i bought a domain with some money I made offline.

    Hope that clarifies it :)

    Thanks again to all of you! Your luck wishes really really help me keeping my head up and get me in a better mood and the most important part is it really increases my motivation!
    You're great :)
     
  13. moanon

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    ok maybe you already thought that this thread died. not exactly right..
    case study on the effects of smoking pot:
    Started smoking again on the weekend. big fault. My motivation really dropped hard. It's true that smoking pot never killed anybody but it really kills time..
    Also, I haven't got a drivers license anymore ... Yes I'm a bit of an idiot..
    Don't want to be any kind of moralizer or something, I'm not really against smoking pot from time to time but it just lets you waste so much time..

    What also happened in the last few days:
    The good news: My last boss asked me if I want to have my old job back and I'm going to do this but only half time at first. But with that I have some money to invest in my projects at the end of the month :)

    The not so good news: My girlfriend found out about P3 and she isn't really amused about it.. Let's see what I can do haha..

    I won't summarize the projects this time because it almost stayed the same but I got some cash to invest and that leads me to my next plan:

    I will start P1 now by searching some niches with amazon products to offer and put those mini amazon shops on it. There's only one problem which I need to solve somehow: The shop system is built for 3 different Amazon locations (DE, US, GB) which all require an own affiliate id. But I have only got the german one yet..

    So, if anyone is still reading this and has any ideas on how to get those id's for the US and GB amazon as easy as possible please let me know :)

    I got 1 idea already. This idea has to do with the next project I want to start. Micro niche sites with adsense. These sites should have some keyword optimized quality content and I think with sites which have good content it should be easy to get accepted for the amazon affiliate program. Also I hope to get some little revenue from these micro niche sites ;)

    So the plans are the same with one addition: FIND GOOD NICHES !

    Any tips are appreciated as always ;)
     
  14. moanon

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    Don't know if anyone is still interested in this thread, but I'll keep posting because it keeps me motivated somehow to share what I'm doing :)

    I'm still looking for good niches, that's my main "project" by now. But I will summarize them again:

    P1) Found the problem why the category pages didn't work in my local testing environment - fixed. As I said already I'm looking for a good niche to test those sites. My current site which is on a way too comeptitive niche ranks 40 on some keywords. Not that good maybe but I didn't do any linkbuilding or something. I'm going to post it here as soon as one site is up :)

    P2) Unfortunatly my technique on getting that many likes on pictures doesn't seem to work anymore since they updated their site. It seems they changed their algo on which pics get to the front page. therefor it's also hard to get new followers on my page.. I'm going to test some things maybe I find another way. The first step is to create more fake accounts. Also I will take a look on how to automatize the process a bit. I've never done something like that, so it could take some time. let's see.

    P3) As I said my gf was a bit pissed about this project so I let it inactive the last days.. I don't get more than about 20 clicks/day anymore, but I want to start this again and am going to upload some new vids today

    P4) MNS + Adsense: find a good niche!

    So that are my plans and like always: if anyone reading this has any tips or something that would be highly appreciated :)
     
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    Good luck. I will read the thread continuously.
    Everything method is not easy. Try your level best to get the success.
    (We) are here to read your post :)
     
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    Good luck mate, Sounds like good thread!, will keep watching :)
     
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    Thanks guys :) I won't let this thread die! Even if I have to sit in McDonalds the whole day for free wlan to continue my projects, I will. And I will let you know haha ;)

    A little Update on P1:
    Like I said I have three locations on these sites, but the language switch is a bit hard coded because I couldn't wait for it to be ready haha :) I will change that so that I can enable/disable it (or single locations) easily. That's also because I will try some pages with german domain name only and therefor I only have DE as location and don't need a switch. I only got the german amazon aff Id by now so I think thats good for a start :)
     
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    Great Thread!

    Im also from Austria and i hope you can earn some serious money!

    Im also looking for methods to earn money online :cool:

    Good Luck Mate
     
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    I will be following this journey good luck! Im planning on posting a journey thread soon.
     
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    Thanks guys I really appreciate that and good luck for you too ;)

    Update on P1:
    After a sleepless night and hours of searching for a good niche to place my site on I finally found something that caught my attention. Many local searches and not that much competition. I'm currently building the website and plan on uploading it today or tomorrow :)
    Could be that I simply have no idea of keyword research but this niche looks like a really good niche in my opinion and I think I will try to mix this site up with my plans on a micro niche site with adsense. What I mean is that I will build my "shop-system" like planned with the affiliate products and so on (this part isn't going to take very long anymore) but I will also add some articles to the page. I plan on adding 1 adsense block or banner to each article.
    Just have to think about the url structure and if I will add the articles after I uploaded the shop system already or if I wait until I have some articles before uploading the page.

    Any opinions on that or tips are appreciated as always ;)