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My journey making next to nothing online

Discussion in 'My Journey Discussions' started by Rune, May 12, 2017.

  1. Rune

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    I have tried a lot during the last years. Maybe not tried too hard. But what I have tried is:

    Build A Niche Store - I made nothing
    Started blog about shoes, since it was a popular subject - I made actually some money
    Wrote a crappy Ebook - Made $1
    Dropshipping from Aliexpress on Ebay - Made nothing
    Me and a friend tried to sell her used underwear (!) - Made nothing
    Dropshipping from a serious supplyer thru own webshop - Failed to make the webshop
    Dropshipping on a local Craigslist-like site - Made nothing

    I have tried and failed more, but does not remember at the moment. The most promising was the dropshipping of sexy and masculine underwear thru my own webshop. But I struggled so much with the Ecommerce that I gave up, eventually. And I tried every Ecommerce solution out there, except from Shopify (too expensive).

    The blog about shoes did acually recieve som readers. I am a guy, so you can imagine my limited knowledge about womens shoes. But I managed to fake it, somehow. And I had a small monthly income from affiliate sales. Not much, maybe 200 dollar in total from when I started to when I shut it down. The site was in Norwegian, meant for readers in my country, which is a very small one, only 5 million inhabitants. What I learned is that affiliate marketing actually works. I tried other blogs, but did not make anything. But I will most likely try again one day.

    Dropshipping from Aliexpress is something I never will do again. It is impossible to succeed, or almost impossible. So no.

    I do think dropshipping has a great potential. And I was very optimistic when I started. I managed to get a great supplier of quality underwear in a cool design. I was aiming for the gay market. But, who could imagine that making a webshop could be so difficult. I could not handle it anymore, and just gave up completely. But I have not forgot, so I have plans to start a webshop one day. If only I can find a very easy and intuitive ecommerce solution, or find other ways to sell. I don't want to go on Ebay and such places, no.

    I have started several ebooks. But managed only to finish one, which was the first attempt, and a very bad one, so of course I did not make anything more than 1 dollar (1 sale). But I have plans to finish some of the other projects as well.

    I had a very successful Tumblr site. I did not monetize it. I should have, or should at least have tried to find out how to monetize it. The Tumblr site was eventually banned. So you can imagine, it was porn, of course.

    I think porn maybe is a way to go. So that is my plan now. I don't know exactly what and how. But I will come up with something. Maybe a porn blog, perhaps. I have already found a niche, actually. And have made a blog (with no content yet). I have a domain name that I can use, that to my shocking actually was available. So I have to be quick and buy it asap. Yes, I will do it now, and plan what to do with it later.

    What else have I tried? I know there is more, but what? Yes, yes. I forgot my very last attempt. How stupid! I made a Facebook page with an Amazon affiliate store inside. Astore, I guess it's called. The plan was to sell stand mixers. I had high hopes, and built great content on the page. Well, well, not a single buyer. Time went, I wrote more content. I gave up, and Amazon sent me a mail telling that the Astore account would be taken down du to no sales. Grrr! So I will never try to make a Facebook page again, no. A complete failure.

    The problem for me is that I have seriously little money. So I can't invest in let's say ghostwriters for ebooks and such. I also loose interest after a while. That is a problem I have to work with, for sure. But I did manage to not loose interest in porn, hihi. My Tumblr had 15 000 followers or so. I wrote content, and had no plans to stop. But I was banned, so it stopped there. So maybe porn are a field I can succeed in. We will see.

    I desperately want to make an income from something on internet. Because I have health problems, and working full time is something I can't do at the moment. I have not enough energy to do so. My last job was 40%. So I need to find an extra source of income, otherwise I will be broke for the rest of my life. I don't need much extra. So the goal is to make 116 dollars a month (which is exactly 1000 Norwegian crowns). That would help a lot. And the goal is not too high. It should be possible.

    I have researched my niche. It has relatively low competition, and the interest in the subject is very high. So I have a chance to do something in that porn niche. I just have to find out what. It is just a few days ago since I started to look at this, so that's why I know so little about what to do now.
     
  2. Ryun

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    how much?
     
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    May I pm you,I have several ideas for you(not promoting anything).
     
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    " Me and a friend tried to sell her used underwear (!) - Made nothing "

    Dude it's got to be sexy underwear, not these!

    Big womens pants.jpg Big womens pants2.jpg
     
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    OP, you need to grab this chance IMMEDIATELY! You've got an interested potential buyer! :D

    P.S. Don't forget to upsell him with more undergarments. Better yet, set up a monthly subscription for used underwear. :p
     
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    For all we know, some people may like them. It could an obscure niche - guys who like huge, used granny undies. ;)
     
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    +1 for the used underwear subscription model

    Don't forget to shit in them first though ;)
     
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    the underwear sounds good :D
     
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    if you have some skills in visual effects, you can try this gimmick to sell your friend's underwear

     
  11. Rune

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    Yes, of course, just send PM :)
     
  12. Rune

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    Hihi, this was a long time ago, about 15 years. So I don't remember. We advertised locally (with posters) and on chat rooms. People pretended that they wanted to buy, but they would in fact just talk dirty. So no sales. But if you want to buy, you can buy my boxers :D
     
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    you probably answered your question in the first sentence
     
  14. Rune

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    Yes, I must try harder next time. Halfway trying something does for sure not work.

    Now I found a host for a webpage. But of course, they did not allow adult content. I will try to find a Norwegian hosting company instead, or some European one. Here, I think it is illegal to ban adult content, as long as the content is legal (no child pornography and such). I give nothing for the fake freedom in America, the land of the free, my ass. Bullshit.

    I have found adult hosting. American, of course. And you'll have to pay a hell of a lot more since they sell "freedom". No, Europe is the only place for hosting. No doubt about that.

    Do anyone of you know of a good and relatively cheap hosting company?
     
  15. Rune

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    My first search for a Norwegian host, and yes, immediately I found one (proisp.no) who says the content must be in accordance with Norwegian law etc. Adult content/porn is not mentioned at all, but they mention that obscene and vulgar content is not allowed. Well, porn is not mentioned, and in my eyes it's neither obscene or vulgar. It is sold in gas stations here, and in every kiosk. How can it be obscene and vulgar when it is placed in front of childrens eyes? So no one can blame me for violating terms of services. And they charge an average price for hosting and domain registration. Not the "adult allowed" price in America, which is like ten times higher or more.

    But, I think I may have to find another niche, since the one I have in mind is a little too borderline against the law. I plan to keep everything very legal, but people can misunderstand and report the page, even if it's not anything else than stories of adults in action, and a clear statement that illegal content should not be found on the page. No videos that can be misunderstood, no children, no nothing but a taboo subject. But I will have to link to other sites (affiliate) and sell some sextoys by dropshipping, or anything like that.

    The only thing I know for a fact, is that this special taboo subject has a potential to be profitable, since the interest is quite huge out there. So I should be able to attract visitors. And now I got another idea, just popping down from the sky! That's what I like, to be creative and find ideas. I'm not quite as good to fullfil them, unfortunately.
     
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    Learn how to program, how to code, how to make decent front end websites and learn some stack for backend ; this is the hard work route, that will give you the power to make any site you want, it wont be easy but you'll have the power and skill eventually to do it. You said you struggle with eCommerce, stripe is free to setup used by some of the biggest companies in the world and pays out direct to your bank account, you'll need some programming skills to integrate it though. Or go for an automated WordPress style option, thrive themes/woocommerce need basically no coding ability at all. Most of all find something you like doing because you'll need to work on it in every spare moment of your time to make it a decent success, if it's something you enjoy you can do that. Take a look at the thousands of new posts on BHW and then how many are still writing 7 months later still working on the same project, it's a tiny percentage, and it explains why everyone that tries marketing online isn't successful, that's the only reason, providing you have basic aptitude.

    There's money to be made you just have to find your niche. I went through the learning coding angle, and actually ended up making a lot more coding for other people than i ever imagined I would (not that it didnt stop me spending it just as fast, but that's another story). I'm still looking for the right marketing style idea, but the key is to just do something and keep doing it I would say. Who knows where it'll take you, the only sure thing you know for certain is if you don't keep trying things you will stay where you are now or move backwards. Sounds like you have some creative ideas, keep coming up with them. Read more on these forums. For example just today I read about mass planner vanishing, this has given me the idea to start getting back into some automation, I've just picked up some programming courses I haven't touched for a while. I'm sure if you read you will have ideas spark off if you just start thinking about things. Then just try them, as you have already, but this time don't stop trying them until you find one that works. Everything is available for free online in this day and age, it wasn't always. Information was rubbish 15 years ago. OK I'll end this poorly punctuated train of thought now, just really wanted to say , keep going, keep trying, keep innovating, and have your eyes open to try new things and maybe even go in completely different directions if any reasonable opportunities arise.
     
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  17. Rune

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    Here you can see a Norwegian hosting company's rules (Syse Data):

    "None of the provisions of this Agreement shall be construed so that the Customer is deprived of any rights that the Customer has under the law, including inevitable rights the Customer may have if the Customer concludes this Agreement as a Consumer.

    SYSE recognizes and respects consumer rights in the countries where SYSE is represented. If the terms listed below should be in conflict with compelling consumer rights, these will be waived for such rights. The other terms of this agreement apply unchanged."

    As you see, in this country we as consumers have inevitable rights. They do not mention porn or nudity at all, since it is allowed according to our law, and of course not forbidden to host. But, further down in the rules, porn and nudity is actually forbidden. Because we are moving into America again, the land of the prisoners. If we use SiteBuilder to build our webpage hosted at Syse Data, we have to accept Weebly's rules. And of course no bare nipples, only greetings to Kim Jon-Un is allowed.

    And that brings me over to comment on your reply, Allwaystoday:

    Yes, I have to make everything from scratch, or find a site builder from Europe or Norway. Programming and coding, oh my God, I get sweaty just by thinking of it. But I'll have to try. I have changed html-code to adjust webpages, so I sort of know what it is, maybe. But hopefully Youtube have tutorials for that as well.

    Thank you for the hint of Stripe. Well, I have tried Woocommerce. I tried every single ecommerse I had included in the hosting. And that was quite many. I also downloaded a lot more. But Woocommerce was one of the worst, I think. Prestashop was easiest, but very limited unless you paid a lot. And I had not the money to just pay. The last attempt, that almost worked, was something I can't remember now, since I tried so many. Cube Cart, or something like that. A short name. I had almost the hang of it, but ran into trubble, and couldn't sort it out. And suddenly it was a mess, everything. Magento was definately the worst, did not understand a thing. Some missed important features, or I could not find them. So ecommerce, who could imagine it could be so un-intuitive? I was like shocked to find out the hard way that those out-of-the-box solutions did not work as smooth as they claimed to do.

    Thank you for your post. I was really inspired :)

    Okey, I think I don't like coding and programming. But I have not tried. I know I am quite good at design, or relatively good. I like to design. So designing from scratch by coding and programming, is maybe not so bad at all. I might like it. Or I might not like it, but cope with it, and manage it. I will try.

    I have learned so many new things in the late years, and ended up liking thingst hat I thought I would hate. Like advanced maths. Like logistics. Like reading science reports. I went to university, studying economics. So why not try coding and programming as well?
     
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