alright, so I went in, shook hands with the doctor. so he has a laptop set up there, and he is like "come here, I wanna show you something"...he had a website up and he is like "I want my website to look like this. I made this website that I have a long time ago. I just downloaded a template and filled in the text" Now I am thinking "fuck, he knows we dont actually design the site" so I nod along and he is like "this is just an informational site, so if someone visits the site, they could read about our services" and I am like "so do you know how much traffic it's getting?" he is like "not much. I dont get clients from online. most of my clients, I get by word of mouth." I am like "well, you know, you could market your site in the search engines" he is like "yeah, I know about SEO" now I am thinking "fuck #2" and he continues "and you do like link building, my wife is really into that, she is on the computer 24 hours a day. but right now I can barely handle all the patients that I have, maybe I will make that your next project" so I am thinking: "then why the hell are you paying me if you can do this yourself?" anyway, so he paid me a $100 deposit, and he is supposed to pay $400 after the job is done. I guess it was nice to get my feet wet, but this won't be a profitable client? he was a really cool dude, he said "i dont believe in contracts, I just shake hands and that's it" I love doctors, they see so much nasty shit all day, they dont give a fuck what you are wearing or if your pants dont match your shirt. I would imagine lawyers are the opposite. PS bastard is making a gazillion dollars, when I was there, 2 people came in and each one paid $1000 cash, just as a deposit, and they are supposed to bring more cash the next time they come in!