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My First Time Being SandBoxed - Want to Read What Happens?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by crazyflx, Jun 15, 2010.

  1. crazyflx

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    Well, it had to happen to me eventually, haha. I was one of the top 3 results in Google for pretty much anything I put on my blog. If I put it there, it went up. Granted, it is all related to the same niche, but still a pretty solid result. However, as of 2 days ago...completely gone. The only way I can see my site in the SERPs is using the boolean operator site:mydomain.com

    I'm dead first in both Bing & Yahoo right now. I'm getting about 1,400 to 1,600 uniques a day, without Google traffic.

    I'm still building backlinks, and my traffic has actually gone up because as I was dropped to page five thousand in Google, my rankings went through the roof on Yahoo & Bing (I have no idea why).

    I'll update this thread daily with any updates as to what happens. I'd love to see my site come back on Google, that would make my year as I'd be getting a ridiculous amount of UV's a day (ridiculous for me anyway).

    Here are some stats on my site:

    Yahoo Site Explorer Backlinks: Just about 4,000 sitewide
    Google Backlinks According to Webmaster tools: 1,640

    I did my link building via some manual bookmarking, bookmark demon, scrapebox, a couple of proprietary bots I've made for myself and a couple of other ways (pretty much all blackhat link building).
     
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    Looking forward so seeing when this comes out of the box. Keep us updated.

    Niksa
     
  3. pucky

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    Ye ok, but this smells like spam, self promotion and obvious links to follow in your signature. Good try! Besides, if your as good as you say you are you should know how to stay OUT OF THE SANDBOX or GET OUT OF IT IF YOUR IN IT! Even i know how.
     
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  4. J0kerz

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    So your site is still indexed in Google, right?

    If I understand correctly, you just dropped alot in ranking (position 100++?)
     
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    The same thing just happened to me (in the same niche too, heh). So it'll be interesting to see how this turns out.

    I'm wondering whether it's worth the effort to try and bring it out of the sandbox (if that's even possible, I don't know), or if it's going to be easier to just throw the domain out and start again. Either way, next time I'm taking it a little easier with scrapebox.

    Do you have any idea what caused your site to be sandboxed?
     
  6. seojumper

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    You don't think it is just a little dans? In three weeks or sooner you'll be probably back stronger.
     
  7. crazyflx

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    Huh? I can assure you this isn't self promotion...promoting what? Want to see my awstats?
     
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    Yes, it's still indexed....just on page like 540 or something (obviously exaggerating). It is still being crawled and new pages are still being indexed, but other than that...nothing.
     
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    How old is the domain that got sandboxed? Did you do anything "special" (scrape box blast, ...)?
     
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    Same things happened to me a couple days ago.

    My "root" domain just dropped alot in the SERP.
     
  11. MisterGemini

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    This might have been a quality drop due to the Mayday update. Look at who are in the top ranks now and see how your content compares to theirs.

    It's not about who has the most links anymore, but about the quality signals for the keyword you are targeting.
     
  12. crazyflx

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    The domain is 8 months old, but I just recently started doing an amount of link building that is abnormal compared to the amount of link building I have done for the site previously.
     
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    You know, it's funny, I actually thought my content was better :) Seriously though, that may have something to do with it (the MayDay update).
     
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    It's not a matter of having better content, but relevant content to the keyword. If the keyword is a product, they want to see shopping data, if the keyword is a tv show or movie, there better be videos. Get the idea?
     
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    Not even close... the guy has a paid ad on BHW for a service that is priced way too cheap.

    @OP - I've been sandboxed before on several sites. I continued to build links and add content to them... the fastest one came out in as little as three weeks and the worst took eight months.

    I bet that you will be fine.
     
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  16. seojumper

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    My thoughs exactly. I have fairly new site and I am cheking it on about 160 keywords. Almost all keywords (or all URLS if you prefer) are going way down (to position 200) for 1,2,3 days and then come back stronger.

    And the root url is not ranking at all :) Probably sandboxed.
    I build links only from blogposts (I know I should mix other type of links in)

    Keep building links and keep posting new content to the site.
     
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    i want to use your services, but cant pm... can you pm me? or how can i contact you?
     
  18. crazyflx

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    I am here to say that I couldn't be happier...or more confused.

    I'm not sure if I was sandboxed or it was a google dance...let me tell you what I did and maybe you guys can give me your opinions.

    My blog is currently set up to "comment" on itself. You know, leave comments on my blog as "other people" to make it look like an active blog.

    Well, I set it up with 100 spun comments to leave on the site. I never bothered to check to see how many comments it had actually left on there.

    After my site disappeared from the rankings, I decided to do a thorough check on my site to see if maybe I had done something internally to cause the disappearance. As it turns out, the auto commenter had left upwards of 3,000 comments!

    Regardless of how well spun those 100 comments I had fed into it as the "input" comments were, to leave 3000 of them meant that there was duplicate content infesting my entire site.

    So, I did a mass delete of every comment on my site, rewrote a new set of 100 spun comments and put them into it.

    That was 36 hours ago, and now I have my previous rankings back. Do you think I would have gotten them back regardless and this is just a coincidence or is it that the duplicate content on nearly every page of my blog was what put me back on page 5,000 to begin with?
     
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  19. seojumper

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    I presume, that duplicate comment's were only small portion of page content?

    It's hard to say, rankings changes from day to day, especially if google is still finding new links.

    My opinion is that you just danced, I don't think google bot went through your entire site, took changes into account, and recalculated the rankings for all your URLs.
     
  20. crazyflx

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    For certain pages, they were almost the only content...then others, a small fraction.

    I was just confused, as when I normally "dance" it is a couple of spots, not hundreds of pages.