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my expired domain isn't ranking in top 100 on easy kw?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by eral123, Apr 20, 2017.

  1. eral123

    eral123 Regular Member

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    I bought an expired domain. It has pretty nice PA = 32 , DA = 38 , TF= 17 CF = 20

    It was on another niche but I changed it and made it for my niche .

    The domain right now is using wordpress and I have only one post ( The one I want to rank) . I have Mandatory site .

    The post has 600 words now ( I will double soon) it has some pics and I'm linking some big website that has to do with my niche .

    The kw difficulty is 12

    My competitions are not so strong . Only 1 has like the same niche as me . Most of top 10 websites are forums , google play , and some websites talking about something else .

    The #1 backlinks mostly has "viagra" anchors text and a lot of others that are not for my niche. It only has the full keyword on his domain.

    It has been like a week since I added my post to google and still my domain is not in top 100 - 200

    WHAT HAVE I DONE SO FAR?

    I only have build 5 expired tumblrs with 2k + backlinks and 40+ PA . And bought some google + shares.

    I don't want to build more since I don't know if theres something wrong with my site and I will just lose my time building backlinks.

    I have even tried building a new site on that niche. And still the site is not in top 100 .

    What should I do to boost up my ranking? Should I add more posts on my website or build more backlinks? How do I know I'm doing the right thing?
     
  2. mzonas

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    1 week is not enough to properly judge SEO. Perhaps you bought penalised domain? Give some social love - tweet, post on facebook, etc ...
     
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    You need to wait more than a week to see some considerable changes for your ranks.
     
  4. eral123

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    How can I check if it was a penalised domain?
     
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    Make sure it's indexed by Googling: site:domain.com. If it is, then Google the domain only (domain.com). It should rank on #1. If not that chances are that the domain is penalised. This is the simplest way to check for penalty.
     
  6. eral123

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    it's indexed but when I search my website it shows the hypestats.mydomain.com alexa.mydomain.com and my domain is #4
     
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    Oh lord:D:D:D I suspect that is your issue. Is the domain even indexed?
     
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    You mention the site is indexed so that is good. So your domain is definitely appearing in google indexed that's a good start, there could still be some penalising on it possibly, you would have to do more checks and wait a bit to get an answer on that.

    You have to remember when you change your site or add something big to it google will take a little while to re-crawl your website (probably around 3 to 10 days depends how much googlebot likes your site)

    Once it spots a big change it sometimes likes to wait a while to just make sure everything is ok before letting you rank.
    While this doesn't happen all the time it happens a fair bit.

    You need to relax with it and give it some more time without doing anything else on it for now, don't force it otherwise google might start to panic.

    With the alexa stats yeah that is showing because that page has been indexed for a while and its stayed the same thing so google trusts it as theres no major changes on those kinda stat displays.


    With your domain how long was it 'expired' for? (i.e how long was it offline for)
    Did it need to get re:indexed when you brought it back to life or was it already indexed?
    If it was already indexed have you changed the home page title/ site meta description and checked google is displaying those changes for your search with the site: parameter?

    The answers to the above might shed some light on it, also depending on the niche you are going for google might like to wait longer
    (for instance its more careful and slower with changes/new content on certain prone to spammy niches)

    I'm assuming the domain is fully clean right? Archive+backlink profiles?


    TL: DR - Wait longer for now check back in a week then do something
     
  9. eral123

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    Its not my domain . I mean the #1 domain ranked on my kw has those backlinks not me!
     
  10. eral123

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    I don't know how long it was offline for

    No it was already indexed .
    Yes I have changed the titles and its showing on google


    But I have found out that the page has been used as a redirect to another site before buying it. Is it bad?
     
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    It's going to take longer than a week.

    Keep up with the good work and see how things lie after a month.

    If there's still no real increase you might want to double check the domain wasn't a dodgy Chinese one or belonged to a PBN before - Wayback Machine is your friend for this.
     
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    I used wayback machine and the website was like a french newspaper or something like that . But last year it was used for a redirect
     
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    With all of the metrics that you've mentioned:
    "PA = 32 , DA = 38 , TF= 17 CF = 20"

    You haven't mentioned actually the most important one: RD :) Or I'm missing something there?
     
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    RD = 160
     
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    as the domain has good metrics it should rank 1st atleast for domain.com but in ur case it's not. Now the best would be to check in google search console for issues.
     
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    RD stands for referring domains. The domains that you are actually getting links from to get all those other metrics. As most metrics can be easily manipulated. But RD is RD, and it's not a metrics as others, it's a fact. It's domains that are linking to your domain.
     
  17. eral123

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    Yea i figured it out after I made that reply . RD = 160
     
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    Hmmm the metrics and situation seem ok, you can check whois history for working out how long it was offline for based on when it was dropped last before you purchased it, but the fact you changed the title and google see's it kind of means you don't need to as it should be fine.

    It's not the best thing in the world, was it a 301 or 302 redirect?
    And was it redirected to a totally different niche site?

    Also how long was it redirected for if it's over 10 months and had a 301 that might explain a few things.
     
  19. eral123

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    Yes it was 301 redirect and it was over than 10 months , I guess is bad , right?
     
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    It's generally not the best thing in the world, a 301 for over 10 months tells google this webpage has legit moved and all the link juice from it should be passed to the new webpage please, after around 10 months of solid 301 google no longer even needs the 301 as it knows the new site is where it's at.

    As for the original link juice and what happens to it or does it come back, I'm not 100% sure on if it does or how long it takes but it's generally advised to avoid 301's for expired's unless you really know what to look for and it was an authentic 301 in the first place and not some totally new niche change used for a quick rank pbn 301.

    Now if the 301 was onto a totally different niche, now that would be even worse, but even if it wasn't id personally have avoided it.

    This could well be what is happening, remember the 3rd party metrics are not google they are 3rd party guides and just give a rough idea of what google might like, google has an entire different database of metrics and will have deemed this 301 in it's own way of dealing with it.

    Still you need to give this more time before you can know anything for sure, so just chill for now, and continue to build some quality bl to it, maybe rank for some 0 difficulty keywords also to help it speed it.