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My competitor is blasting links, and outranks me BIG TIME!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Nikola.Tesla, Nov 21, 2013.

  1. Nikola.Tesla

    Nikola.Tesla Junior Member

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    Ok so for the last 4 months i have been doing safe seo, wich means slow link building and mostly buying guest post, so far i have spent 700$ on links. And i have made around 2400$ in a time period of 3 months, wich means the first two months took me only to rank and then on the last month i made 2400$

    I was ranking on 6 place on first page for the main keyword, and my competitor was ranking somewhere on the third page.
    The competitor website is very new. Maybe 1 month.

    Competitors website

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    One of the backlinks look like this, i think it is blogengine comments? i see a lot of spam and probably it is AA list.

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    i am considering to risk my website and get links like my competitor because it would be a good ROI, but the question is how am i going to do this?
    1: how to i get links like him/her
    2: how do i index links like him/her
    3: wich software do i use, i have already scrapebox

    And one last thing, the competitor is not using sneaky 301 redirects, he is not using redirects at all.

    I have read that blackhatworld is a great place to go for this, so i hope somebody can at least give me advice or learn me a thing or two i would appreciate it much.
     
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  2. MafiaBoss

    MafiaBoss Elite Member

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    this is short live strategy
    keep doing what you are doing and you will soon reach on top.
     
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  3. WellGrounded

    WellGrounded Registered Member

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    He's gonna get whacked sooner or later
     
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  4. Nikola.Tesla

    Nikola.Tesla Junior Member

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    But how do i do things like that? if i wanted to do.
     
  5. HelloInsomnia

    HelloInsomnia Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Get yourself GSA SER, a VPS or dedicated server and some private proxies and start building links like crazy.
     
  6. nikiobicata

    nikiobicata Regular Member

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    If you are number 6 what place is your competitor ? Did he reach number 1 ?
     
  7. Nikola.Tesla

    Nikola.Tesla Junior Member

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    YES he reached number 1 on the first page.
     
  8. Nikola.Tesla

    Nikola.Tesla Junior Member

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    GSA SER is it worth buying i mean, is it effective and how much does it cost to maintain such big velocity of links i mean things like captcha etc.

    is it really necessary to get the software i already have scrapebox with private proxies.
     
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    nikiobicata Regular Member

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    25 000 Captchas will cost you $35 so you can do the math ... If you make money from your website invest in this tools...Or you can hire people from odesk to make links for you. You can scrape website with scrapebox and tell them to post links to this websites
     
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  10. cloakndagger2

    cloakndagger2 Regular Member

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    velocity is a key factor, it is why sites drop when they employ these methods, they run out of links. If you find a number you can maintain, you'll last longer with this method. You'll need regular lists, sub to list services, fresh lists work a treat, hammered lists are of little value.
     
  11. HelloInsomnia

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    You can start with a small VPS and go from there but GSA runs I think $89 then you will need either Captcha Breaker or Captcha Sniper and private proxies. So probably a minimum of $220 or so to start and a monthly cost of at least $30.

    You should use a captcha solution like CB or CS otherwise running GSA with something like death by captcha can cost a fortune.
     
  12. WellGrounded

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    Spamming is a waste of time. Invest in building your own private blog network. Learn how to pick up expired domains.
     
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  13. thinktank1

    thinktank1 Regular Member

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    contrary to what everyone is saying this type of spamming can actually rank you for quite a while.
     
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  14. Laubster

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    I agree with this for the most part. I know guys who consistently rank whatever sites they want, and they do it with private blog networks. Given some have spent six figures on their network, but they don't mess with SPAM (unless it's for fun) and for the most part don't build any links they can't control at all times. It's def. more expensive to build your own network though, so renting from the right places can be a good start until you can reinvest that money into building your own PBN.
     
  15. Techxan

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    He is building a churn and burn site, and if he has any sense, he knows it and has another in the wings. But a couple of buffer sites in the stream and blast the hell out of them, letting their juice flow to your domain, expecting these to burn at some time, and keeping your money site safe.

    In the long run, a private blog network is the best solution. At least for now.
     
  16. TheLinkGuy

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    Short lived strategy for sure.. blog comments are difficult to manage and maintain rankings with these days. A lot of people disavow these links and as time goes on you start seeing more and more of these AA blogs getting shutdown either by being deindexed or the hosting or domain expiring.
     
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    Yes he is going to get whacked sooner or later, and when he does, he will whack another site back together and out rank you with that one. Throw a piece of shit together and spam like you have never spammed before, it is the way forward.
     
  18. SPQR

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    You have already invested $700 in SEO, so why risk destroying your genuine site with GSA links? If anything, I would just wait it off. These are short lived strategies and tend to be whacked by the big e-cock of Google in a month or so. Just keep on keeping on, and you should be good. It is all profit from here, so why do you want to ruin it? If anything, build Tier 2/3 links to your high quality quest posts. That way it will not effect your site directly, and if goes as planned, it will help your site have more juice.
     
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    You will see him leaving the first page soon. Don't change your SEO plans now.
     
  20. Nightly

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    I say It Is.

    I have some quick cash sites such as the one you're describing, with many more lined up, and have long term profit sites. I have started using GSA SER for both now, just different quality settings and have been seeing great results.

    My monthly charges (not just for GSA mind you, but It will give a general Idea),

    Spamvilla for Recaptcha. Just started using, already has saved me money, support is very slow though. Will be upgrading to a custom plan after testing this month - $30.00/m

    DeathByCaptcha 250k Captcha Solves - $350.00/m

    Server - This Is where things get a bit different. I have multiple dedicated servers, split Into VPS's. Not going to say price, because It's not relevant to this lol.

    500 Private Proxies - Just about $800.00/m



    You don't need to buy subs for GSA lists, you have Scrapebox. Just use that to build your own site lists, that's what I do. I also have GSA Captcha Breaker, and use all 3 services/software to solve my captchas. Going down the line, GSA Captcha Breaker > Spamvilla (Recaptcha) > Death By Captcha.

    For you, I would say get 50 Private Proxies which will run around $80.00, 50k Captchas via DBC $70.00, spamvilla $30, GSA Captcha Breaker $120, decent 2GB RAM windows server around $40-$60.

    Total: Around $350ish

    That's of course If you want to use somewhat the same strategy of your competitor. I personally would not spend so much because a site that will soon be gone Is ranking higher than you.