Discussion in 'Making Money' started by Andre Youkhna, Jul 16, 2019.
Did you studied from a top prestigious university or school?
Lmfao good shit.
I was skeptical after calculating your valuation (according to your thread title), but these are some really good points.
According to your JV thread, DeskX generated 30k in revenue sometime back, and you were having trouble generating more sign ups. Exactly how did you convince an investor only take 10% and value your company this high, even if you were projected to 10x your revenue by the end of year? Most investors are waiting for an IPO, or buyout, wouldn't that high of a valuation hurt you in further rounds of funding?
BTW I'm assuming you company is DeskX since that's currently your company/project on LinkedIn.
Can anyone tell me how to fake employees and testimonials??
Whenever you have to ask why, first ask yourself if "money" could possibly be the answer.
Since my first introduction to Andre, I have decided not to take anything he says seriously.
He is putting in a lot of work, hustling hard, and there is a lot to be learned from his efforts, but I truly don't believe he has ever found notable success in any of his ventures. It's all a sales pitch.
What product have you had 1 mill invested, id be interested in having a look.
Well well well look how this turned out to be...
Hey guys thanks for all the comments! I'll answer all your questions soon. Been super busy today. Looking forward to talking to you all soon.
Hey there serb thank you so much for taking the time to do your research and typing all that up. I’d love to clear things up.
45 Million generated for clients... would love to connect with you on skype and send you anything that can possibly prove that. I had two very large clients... one being a massive law firm in Los Angeles one case would make them $2-$10M easily. They deal with bad faith, malpractice, and business law. Getting them ranked on google and sending them clients through SEO isn't that difficult. I don't know how much I can say about the cases that they have gotten from me for legal reason, but I will call them tomorrow and see if I can tell you a bit more. Maybe I can give you the law firms info and you can call them directly but again I'll have to talk to them first.
Second large client is a drug rehab center. Where it's against HIPAA rules to do PPC advertising... so they have to do SEO and that's pretty much the only digital marketing they can do. A patient for them is anywhere from $30,000-$60,000 for a 90 day period. So you can see how that adds up... Now again same goes for these guys. I'll have to contact them and see if they're willing to give our more info and maybe even talk to you.
As far as fiverr goes we didn't really do much on there we literally just set it up one day and never really logged back in. We would use it to purchase gigs ourselves but never tried to sell anything.
ING Marketing Group has had a lot of issues since the day I started it. I started up in high school where I would develop apps/websites for family and friends. I even went as far as helping out my school with a couple of tech issues. So I started very early accuracy of the date is 100% correct. I've been working on my agency and going to school for years.
As far as the website goes... we really didn't spend much time on it as we were working on Nurr and deskx. To top it off thats not our original domain nor is it our original website. We had a different website and a totally different domain that was highjacked because we didn't auto renew the domain. I know dumb rookie mistake and I admit that.
I can provide our company podcasts to you at anytime. I ended up firing my right hand man and it was not a good way to end things with the employee. We ended on rough terms and he was the cohost of the podcast so I went ahead and took all the episodes down.
The logo actually wasn't a free deer icon. That logo was created for a lot of money.... I spent a whole $50 in wix creating that logo. My girlfriend loves deers so we created that logo last minute when we got letters in the mail by ING Group... our original logo was a lion however because of legal issues we had to take it down.
No as far as the ING to DigitalMediafy... again we had legal problems with ING Group. A financial company based out of the Netherlands was threatening to sue us... so Digital Mediafy was nothing new nothing crazy. Same thing as ING just a different name... we moved all of our clients over and carried on.
I'm not sure what you mean by this sorry.
deskx has nothing to do with the social network startup that I had mentioned.
There is no listing on reddit that said no base pay that's 100% false.. all of my job listings have a base pay.
That reddit thread "where I'm conversing myself" was not made by me... it was actually made by someone from this forum... if he's okay with it I'll take him in this thread.
I don't expect you to believe anything. I'm just trying to help the community that has helped me many times. None of my threads are boasting about my services... I'm pretty sure that's agains BHW TOS and they'd ban me for it.
Lastly I just read over my Nurr thread... I didn't see any hinting about funding about that. Nurr is not being funded.
Again I have not hinted that Nurr is funded nor is it my main business. Nurr was an idea that popped into my head and being a coder I decided to give it a shot. It flopped.
You haven't worked with people like me. I have not created a grandiose persona... and I'm glad you didn't leave me alone because I'm sure a lot of people were thinking what you said...
I hope I was able to answer everyone of your accusations. Sorry for all the spelling errors.. it's currently 1 am and I've been up since 5am.
Thanks again for taking the time to do the research and type all that up. Just answering this post was exhausting I bet it was even harder doing all the research and typing everything up.
if there was something I missed I'm sorry. If there is something you want to see let me know I'm sure I can make it happen.
Stay golden my dude! I appreciate you.
by the way my friends,what type of business you involve?is it online companybor conventional company,if im i have a real estate and property business hehe,so do you can teach us how ti propose proposal to investor?
Sometimes hate in here is a way too much, what you guys earn and lose if you think he is a liar?
If he lies, he lives in his fairy tale nice and happy, let the men dream.
If he doesn`t, will not make any difference in your life or in his.
Fucking egos man...
That's simply not reality.
Reality is that building up a fake persona is a tactic used by scammers quite often, especially when they start discussing investments in their company.
You tell people your company has been valued at $20,000,000 , but a very select group of members are going to be given the exclusive opportunity to buy-in at a $500,000 valuation if they can come up with $5,000 in the next week. This is top secret, but the company has just been contacted by Microsoft and there is an offer to buy the company out at $50,000,000, but we need $50,000 cash deposit to hire the lawyers and we only have $30,000 cash on hand and the other investors can't meet to approve additional funds for another 3 weeks and the deal with fall through by then. You are getting 1% of the company directly from my share and I am losing millions on this, but we need to make it happen NOW. Nobody can know or the other investors will be pissed you got in for such a low valuation.
That's just 1 variation. It happens all the time on internet marketing and making money forums, and off-line as well of course.
It's the same basic concept behind penny stocks/pump and dumping. Highly recommend watching https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiler_Room_(film) for anyone interested in these sales tactics. One of the best of all time.
Just to be clear here, the implications from this post are that:
An LA law firm that does hundreds of millions a year in revenue did not have a website, or, at the very least, did not have a website ranking on Google, before Andre came along.
An LA law firm that does hundreds of millions a year in revenue did not have Andre sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement that outlines what he can and cannot disclose in regards to their relationship. I'm sure he will come back and say they did, of course, but the implications have already been made without Andre thinking about them. He is saying words that he thinks sounds correct and he thinks add credibility, but in reality, make no sense. He wants to build this picture where he is fully willing to disclose everything, but the clients are not letting him. Shift the blame to someone else.
Literally one of the top 200 law firms in the United States, that does hundreds of millions a year in revenue, with over 100 lawyers and hundreds of support staff, decided that Andre was their guy, despite the fact that he has no track record of success, doesn't even have a website of his own ranked highly on Google, has no staff himself.
An LA law firm that does hundreds of millions a year in revenue and was able to generate tens of millions of dollars in revenue from Andre's work did not pay him very well, because Andre needed to continue pushing his failed companies, started and failed at podcasting, started and failed at YouTube content creation. The law firm decided that, despite the tens of millions a year in revenue, Andre was no longer their guy, or Andre just grew bored because it was too easy. Rather than generate tens of millions a year for other law firms, Andre decided traditional SEO was no longer for him, and podcasting, vodcasting, and artificial intelligence were next for him.
We know that you are a liar, Andre. We can prove that. The question is, are you just lying to prospective customers, or are you also lying to blackhatworld members?
Your website, https://www.deskxai.com/ , claims "Trusted by thousands, from startups to enterprises across the globe." We know that isn't true. You know that isn't true. Despite being one of the best SEO professionals in the world, your website, trusted by thousands, is just you personally writing simple blog posts and doing all of the design work yourself, has no authority of any kind, has no traffic outside of blackhatworld and reddit posts... No, wait, actually the blog posts aren't even written by you. You literally just copy and pasted articles from other people.
Looks like... http://www.cssmotion.ru/?p=224 A 7 year old spam article that is duplicated across hundreds of websites. Checked the rest... yep, doesn't seem to be a single original article. Now sure, this can just be a place holder while you write some original articles. But why? It costs $20 to hire a blackhatworld writer to get you beautiful original content. Why risk damaging the reputation of your company, trusted by thousands, to save $100 on articles? The information you are providing is surely outdated.
I bring everyone's attention to this gem of an article: https://www.deskxai.com/post/link-acquisition-a-beginners-guide
In this blog post, from one of the most trusted SEO service providers in the world, Andre highlights the importance of reciprocal link building among SEO professionals. Actual quote "Reciprocal links are links which are traded with the most ferocity by Search Engine Optimization Professionals as they are the easiest to attain." Of course, Andre didn't even write this article, it's just more copy and pasted trash, but even as a copy and paste, Andre should know better than this.
That's enough of my time.
Andre is an entertainer and a salesman.
But please, everyone, don't dismiss this as just harmless fantasy.
Andre may be a good guy, maybe Andre really did somehow get lucky and trick some big companies into giving him money.
But there are definitely risks that come with this sort of behavior.
I can see you guys have put a lot of effort into this and that's great and all, but this is far easier than you're making it.
What kind of SEO start up or expert has a website with 0 traffic, 0 keywords and 1 link?
If this was funded it would be in the news, press releases would be sent, marketing would begin and the initial investment of a company is a great thing to market and attract interest from customers, competitors and even other investors.
Yet, for some reason... that didn't happen.
This thread is a lie, the OP is liar and you're all autistic for believing it.
LMFAO this is utter bullshit.
HIPAA is about data protection, it would mean that you can't retarget them or upload custom audiences to target specific people/past patients.
But PPC is very much allowed:
Just be honest, you're a kid in a bedroom with big dreams. Lying on an internet forum is very silly, it's even more silly when you have used your real fucking name and this will be available forever for people to see.
Andre's claim is that there is another company that none of us know about yet, I guess, that is the main company that "got funded."
But, I do like your idea about press releases and such. Funding like this isn't a secret. This is a highly regulated industry. You don't just shake hands and get handed millions of dollars because your idea is revolutionary. Andre's name is the public face of every company he is attached to, so he has no reason to keep anything secret or hidden from us.
I also looked into HIPAA, and they actually have a whole guidance section about how marketing is explicitly allowed. They didn't mention PPC, but, I don't see how PPC wouldn't be allowed. It didn't make any sense to me.
Reddit thread of other people in this industry talking about how they use PPC: https://www.reddit.com/r/PPC/comments/8knzlb/hipaa_compliance_and_remarketing/
Company offering PPC for health care: https://www.coffeycomm.com/blog/posts/what-is-ppc-and-why-does-it-matter-in-healthcare/
A nice infographic on the subject: https://static1.squarespace.com/sta...985347/Adtaxi-02_Healthcare_Mktg_Myths_D2.pdf
Was it your first investor round?
Did you show up with any proof of concept or just the plain idea?
How did you find these investors?
How did you determine the proper "shares" count for the invested money? Did you just "think" your company will be worth 10 million one day, hence for 1 million they get 10%?
Why do you keep making these bullshit threads? Are you trying to manifest some fantasy in your head ? I remember the “e-commerce expert thread ask me anything thread”, and it was the same exact stuff, a bunch of BS. You claimed that you where cash flowing a net profit of 6 figures a month. Anyone netting that much monthly would be smart enough to never give up equity unless it wasn’t an absolute necessity. If you where cash flowing that type of $$$ your bank would give you a LOC in a heartbeat. It is so easy to discredit you that it isn’t even worth most of the veteran members time to go into a long write up. It really sucks that this is the type of people BHW now attracts. Why not add real value to the forum? Anyone that takes the time to do research on you will think that you have some sort of mental illness. It isn’t normal to repeatedly create these bigger than life personas and scenarios. In the long run this is going to hurt you. 5-10 years from now when you actually put in the work, go through the fire, “plow your land” and are able to reap the harvest of all the hard work you put in and taste real success, you will unfortunately have these fantasies and people discrediting them connected to your online reputation. Maybe you are just trolling because you are bored, I have no idea. But you should know better than trying to pull this here. This is black hat world after all, and we can smell this shit from a mile away.
We need a mod (@BassTrackerBoats ?) to investigate that guy and ban him eventually if (and it seems so) he is full of BS
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