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My blog has top Metrics compared to a competing website. Still not ranking Top

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by thakarpratik, Nov 8, 2016.

  1. thakarpratik

    thakarpratik Power Member

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    Hello all fellow members.
    I need some input and direction as i am struggling to understand why my site is not touching top result

    My site metrics for a Page that I want to compare

    MY site - TF30 , CF 34, DA 39, PA 43, Links 300+
    I am ranking 8the spot whereas my comp is ranking 3rd for the same kw

    MY Comp -TF 13 CF 20, DA 18, PA 24 , His Spam score 3 and My spam score 1 as per ahrefs

    Similarly for anothe page
    My TF 39, CF 43 DA35 and PA40+

    MY Comp TF 20, CF 23, DA 22, PA 25

    I am really intrigued and frustrated as my site is not hitting among top 5 results with such high metrics

    Infact among the top 10 results my site metrics are Top Notch

    Am I missing anything to check?
     
  2. Leith

    Leith Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    Sorry to burst your bubble but high metrics don't mean high rankings. If that was the case, I could easily manipulate all my metrics and secure top spots.
     
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  3. dee_emm_tee

    dee_emm_tee Junior Member

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    They are backed by powerful PBNs/301'd domains that have blocked crawlers.
     
  4. thakarpratik

    thakarpratik Power Member

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    There is no bubble to burst
    Its just for my knowledge , and if metrics were that easy to achieve in a short span any TDH could be ranking
     
  5. gussieboi

    gussieboi Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Most of my sites have higher metrics than my competitors on the first page. They still rank ahead of me. Google doesn't go by majestic/seomoz metrics. Maybe if there was a drastic difference between your metrics and your competitors metrics it may mean there is something else going on.
     
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    How good is your on page ?

    How good are their PBNs ?
     
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  7. thakarpratik

    thakarpratik Power Member

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    At this point I am happy to pay someone to come in and consult and suggest what needs to be done.

    Pm If anyone is interested. Expecting an expert ofcourse
     
  8. Leith

    Leith Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    I think you missed my point. So let me rephrase what I said:

    Metrics (like TF) are very easy to manipulate.

    Higher metrics do not mean higher rankings.

    I could have a brand new domain and could manipulate the TF to the same as yours very quickly. Not that hard.

    My point was you need to look away from metrics because that's not the reason for your lower rankings.
     
  9. Toto

    Toto Registered Member

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    Site age might play a role. And length of content.
     
  10. Eagle Eye

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    so many other factors......
     
  11. CyberHour

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    What are your Social Signals, SSL (yes/no) page loading speed , website/domain age
     
  12. thakarpratik

    thakarpratik Power Member

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    1000+ Social Signals
    Page Loading 2 Sec
    Website/Domain - 3 years Old

    NO SSL

    Its a German site ,but data center is USA

    I am considering moving the site to a German Host with German Datacenter
     
  13. CyberHour

    CyberHour Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I can't see any reason for using USA based hosting for European website with European traffic and European Google SERP.
    Consider moving your website in Europe (No need to be in Germany) and add SSL , SSL is not massive rank factor (yet) but we believe that it will add an additional % value of lets say 2-5%

    Best Regards,
    Alex-CyberHour
     
  14. wisdomkid

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    Metrics makes your website look more powerful, but it all comes down to how arranged your website is, both with internal and external link building, coupled with your anchor text and your link building scheme.

    Maybe you focus more on your metrics, and forget about making your website more content-powerful, etc
     
  15. nobody00

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    Is your site responsive? that's a new box you need to tick
     
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    I googled "buying car insurance guide." First page in order:
    1. PA 71, DA 91
    2. PA 57, DA 84
    3. PA 47, DA 95
    4. PA 49, DA 74
    5. PA 46, DA 74
    6. PA 70, DA 85
    7. PA 37, DA 77
    8. PA 49, DA 97
    9. PA 27, DA 49
    10. PA 54, DA 88
    # 9 there had a mere 465 RDs to the domain, and just 1 RD to the page. It ain't all about metrics.

    Moz, Ahrefs, all of them say that their metrics correlate at most 40% with rankings. There's a couple reasons for this, for starters the lack of specificity of the metrics: they're calculated across a huge corpus of keywords and searches of varying types.

    Then there's on-page, topical relevance, site structure, etc, etc, etc.

    Think first if your links are really as good as theirs. Not just metrics, but what a human would think. If so, then probably you need to spend time thinking about everything other than links.
     
  17. Trinity Smith

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    Just like what others have already mentioned above, having a higher metrics doesn't mean higher ranking in Google. In fact, there are many websites out there who still ranks well even though you're metrics are far better than them. Maybe your content is not just good enough to outrank your competitors, or your website needed some touch-up or something. There are many strategies that you can do to rank well in Google SERPS, such as posting only unique and useful content to your target audience, boost your social interactions, and improve your user experience by making your website beautiful, easy to navigate, fast, and mobile-friendly.
     
  18. varunapati

    varunapati Newbie

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    Dont go by metrics, focus upon better quality links. You will not be able to find all links that your competitors have, just get better links than what you currently have to outrank them.
     
  19. danparks

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    OP you haven't mentioned the most important thing - the backlinks to your site. As others have mentioned, third party metrics can be gamed. Google doesn't rank sites based on third party metrics. What does your backlink profile look like, compared to the backlink profiles of the higher ranking sites. That's what really matters.
     
  20. eNzim

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    How would you manipulate TF? I thought the main purpose of it's existence is that it's very hard to manipulate therefore it's a reliable metric. (if it's a sensitive subject, a PM is appreciated as well :) )